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(@alana33)
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Hmm. We still have no clue about Trumplemeantweetingthinskin taxes.
But hey, that's okay because it was alternative reality that he "promised"
to release them a. After an audit, b. When he became president, c. After he became president, d. Never if he can get away with it because you supporters know he doesn't lie and has NOTHING to hide.
Amazing how every single other president and presidential candidate has done this, except, this self-serving POUTUS.
Emoluments Clause, Nepotism, Treasonous, much?

Glad he's now so willing to SHARE CYBER SECURITY with Putin after his meeting. Putin's sycophantic self-serving lap dog.
Any president that would support Putin and Russia over his own Intelligence Team is a traitor. He's done his best to fire, deny, then admit to firing Comey over "the Russia thing" to Russians and on Twitter, FGS!
If he was truly interested in getting to the bottom of this, he'd welcome an investigation,
Not obstruct.

 
Posted : July 8, 2017 9:40 pm
(@LiquidFluoride)
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Emoluments Clause, Nepotism, Treasonous, much?

Are you just throwing out buzz words? Do you know what nepotism means? haha

Glad he's now so willing to SHARE CYBER SECURITY

Do you know what "cyber security" is?

Your outraged that he told putin how to patch his computers and put sensible "best practices" (that are freely available on the internet... I am a "cyber security" team member for the national guard here.. we follow best practices published on the internet...) in place?

Are you one of those "low information" voters?

Come on.. this post is a bit silly.

 
Posted : July 9, 2017 12:50 am
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still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 9, 2017 11:14 am
(@alana33)
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Why wouldn't you wish not to have information on his tax returns in order to ascertain that he has no CONFLICTS of INTEREST?
He said he'd release them if he got elected.
No Blind Trust, either.
He spends more time golfing and vacationing at his properties than educating himself on issues.
Everyone surrounding him is under investigation.

Had President Obama had a private conversation about "grabbing @#$%&", WHOA! What do you think might have happened?

Honestly, hard to believe that any woman who heard what he said, in his own words, would think think that it is perfectly fine to debase women in that manner. Would it be fine if he did it to you, your mother, daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece? I think not
This is a guy that has no moral or ethical standards in the slightest.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-behavior-is-the-biggest-threat-to-us-national-security/2017/07/09/a5d3a842-64a8-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.16cb5e9b5a0d

 
Posted : July 10, 2017 10:15 pm
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Why wouldn't you wish not to have information on his tax returns in order to ascertain that he has no CONFLICTS of INTEREST?
He said he'd release them if he got elected.
No Blind Trust, either.
He spends more time golfing and vacationing at his properties than educating himself on issues.
Everyone surrounding him is under investigation.

So, he's the figure head of the US, aka a president?

Sounds like every other president, ever... why are you concerned now?

Had President Obama had a private conversation about "grabbing @#$%&", WHOA! What do you think might have happened?

Slick willy got a BJ in the oval office then lied about it... Dem's painted him as an enduring rascal.... why would Obama have been different?

Honestly, hard to believe that any woman who heard what he said, in his own words, would think think that it is perfectly fine to debase women in that manner. Would it be fine if he did it to you, your mother, daughter, granddaughter, sister, niece? I think not
This is a guy that has no moral or ethical standards in the slightest.

I heard no debasement, I heard expression of sex drive (which yea.. gross, don't want to hear that) but damn, your acting like women DON'T have a libido and that men aren't usually the "target" of that libido... Your acting like sex isn't a huge part of basically every healthy persons life....

I mean if you need the birds and the bees broken down, I can do that (I have 4 daughters) but his statement was about a part of the body that's a pretty big focus during that activity... haha

I think it would have been way weirder, in that context; if he had said "grab her by the ankle" or something...

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 11:51 am
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Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 11:59 am
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https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/77407/how-can-i-achieve-a-13-u-s-federal-tax-rate

http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-releases-his-2014-tax-returns-2016-4

something you could have looked up for yourself.

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 2:24 pm
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Why do you care about Bernie Sander's tax return? His gross income was $205,271 in 2014 and he had plenty of deductions. By today's political standards he lives in poverty.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041

https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/77407/how-can-i-achieve-a-13-u-s-federal-tax-rate

http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-releases-his-2014-tax-returns-2016-4

something you could have looked up for yourself.

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 3:27 pm
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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 3:40 pm
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Donald Trump has a posse of lawyers and he's done nothing wrong.

Your point?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 4:22 pm
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Which one was arguing that Taxes were too low on top earners?

Sanders and his wife are in this category. While paying more taxes than one needs to is stupid and a function of the wisdom of Washington, it's a bit disingenuous for BS to rail about people not paying their fair share

Donald Trump has a posse of lawyers and he's done nothing wrong.

Your point?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 9:18 pm
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It was offensive, so I changed it. I figured bashing the old communist wasn't going to help matters.

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 10:42 pm
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that is my point. innocent people have lawyers.
liberals are all in an uproar because trump jr got a lawyer/talked to a lawyer.

sorry you didnt understand that simple point

Donald Trump has a posse of lawyers and he's done nothing wrong.

Your point?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 11:05 am
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my point was everyone complaining about trump following the tax laws to his advantage and saying nothing about bernies low tax rate.

just more liberal hypocrisy

Which one was arguing that Taxes were too low on top earners?

Sanders and his wife are in this category. While paying more taxes than one needs to is stupid and a function of the wisdom of Washington, it's a bit disingenuous for BS to rail about people not paying their fair share

Donald Trump has a posse of lawyers and he's done nothing wrong.

Your point?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 11:08 am
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I don't understand. You make income, you subtract deductions and you pay taxes on the balance. I am not a BS fan - but his taxes are probably the simplest to understand of any of the presidential candidates from 2016. He legally filed using IRS forms and is not under audit as far as we know.

HOWEVER, this is really old news. Why bring it up?

Sanders is not the president nor will he be a viable presidential candidate in 2020.

my point was everyone complaining about trump following the tax laws to his advantage and saying nothing about bernies low tax rate.

just more liberal hypocrisy

Which one was arguing that Taxes were too low on top earners?

Sanders and his wife are in this category. While paying more taxes than one needs to is stupid and a function of the wisdom of Washington, it's a bit disingenuous for BS to rail about people not paying their fair share

Donald Trump has a posse of lawyers and he's done nothing wrong.

Your point?

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/bernie-sanders-and-his-wife-reportedly-lawyer-up-amid-fbi-probe.html

as liberals would say, if you have nothing to hide, why get a lawyer???

Bernie Sanders is not President of the US.

He's an independent senator from Vermont- it's up to Vermont citizens to judge him now. The fraud thing is about Bernie's wife and not him. Are we now responsible for our spouses unproven misdeeds?

Bernie released his taxes when he was a presidential candidate. Did you actually look at his return and make the 13% calculation yourself - or are you quoting a figure you saw published somewhere?

Why bring this up at all?

still by law he does not need to show his returns. but bernie only paid 13%, but i guess thats okay , well that and the fraud, because he didnt have a private conversation about grabbing pussy

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 12:16 pm
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Gators mom, this is where the tax part came from. but i guess you could have read back to see why it was brought up in the first place.

serious broke.

without the rich people, where would the rest be considering they contribute about 75% of federal taxes collected.

where would all those welfare programs be without them. instead of vilifying them you should be praising them for contributing so much to our country and lets not forget the amount of money they donate yearly to various programs that again support the poor.
and we cant forget the millions of jobs all those evil rich people create now can we. by gosh, lets do away with all the people who are the top 1%.

and lets go after bernie who only paid 13% of his income in taxes. how dare he follow the law and pay so little.

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 3:21 pm
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Why do you care about Bernie Sanders at all? Why do care about rich people and their taxes? Why do you care what "liberals" think? Who's vilifying whom?

They can all take care of themselves.

Gators mom, this is where the tax part came from. but i guess you could have read back to see why it was brought up in the first place.

serious broke.

without the rich people, where would the rest be considering they contribute about 75% of federal taxes collected.

where would all those welfare programs be without them. instead of vilifying them you should be praising them for contributing so much to our country and lets not forget the amount of money they donate yearly to various programs that again support the poor.
and we cant forget the millions of jobs all those evil rich people create now can we. by gosh, lets do away with all the people who are the top 1%.

and lets go after bernie who only paid 13% of his income in taxes. how dare he follow the law and pay so little.

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 3:48 pm
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why do you care what i think or write. no one is telling you to answer to my replies at all. you are doing that yourself. get over it and if you dont like the way conversation take different turns, dont participate. easy peasy.

get over it

Why do you care about Bernie Sanders at all? Why do care about rich people and their taxes? Why do you care what "liberals" think? Who's vilifying whom?

They can all take care of themselves.

Gators mom, this is where the tax part came from. but i guess you could have read back to see why it was brought up in the first place.

serious broke.

without the rich people, where would the rest be considering they contribute about 75% of federal taxes collected.

where would all those welfare programs be without them. instead of vilifying them you should be praising them for contributing so much to our country and lets not forget the amount of money they donate yearly to various programs that again support the poor.
and we cant forget the millions of jobs all those evil rich people create now can we. by gosh, lets do away with all the people who are the top 1%.

and lets go after bernie who only paid 13% of his income in taxes. how dare he follow the law and pay so little.

 
Posted : July 12, 2017 5:20 pm
(@alana33)
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Aren't we sick of this depraved, fascist demagogue as yet?
Every intelligent human on this planet already knew he was unfit, unqualified, incompetent, unfair, intellectually, morally, ethically challenged and corrupt individual, without any honor, honesty, integrity, loyalty, truthfulness, trustworthiness, morally repugnant, racist, misogynistic, misanthropic , sexist, sycophantic, a malignant, bullying, narcissistic, self-serving, selfish, treasonous, traitorous, xenophobic, pathologically LYING, vile maggot.

 
Posted : July 30, 2017 3:00 am
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Maybe not every every intelligent human knew, or cared. What he did to the Boy Scouts was pathetic though. Will be interesting to see if the mooch can reel him in at all.

 
Posted : July 30, 2017 4:03 am
(@alana33)
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Mooch is suck ass.
But it's interesting to hear that he's not trying to "suck his own d..k" as he profiled Steve Bannon and also humiliated Preibus, prior to his firing.
And... another one bites the dust!
Who's Next?

Malignant Psycothopy:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2870145/malignant-and-psychopathic-donald-trump-expert-studies-600-hours-of-trump-footage/

 
Posted : July 30, 2017 4:37 am
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Aren't we sick of this depraved, fascist demagogue as yet?
Every intelligent human on this planet already knew he was unfit, unqualified, incompetent, unfair, intellectually, morally, ethically challenged and corrupt individual, without any honor, honesty, integrity, loyalty, truthfulness, trustworthiness, morally repugnant, racist, misogynistic, misanthropic , sexist, sycophantic, a malignant, bullying, narcissistic, self-serving, selfish, treasonous, traitorous, xenophobic, pathologically LYING, vile maggot.

Wow. Quite an over-reaction just because he put ketchup on his spaghetti and meatballs.

I like the touch on how YOU are intelligent, and imply that no one is that disagrees with you.

 
Posted : July 30, 2017 10:26 am
(@Gumbo)
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Build that wall!
Trump 2020!

 
Posted : July 31, 2017 12:13 am
(@Scubadoo)
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Sure, as soon as Mexico pays for it.

 
Posted : July 31, 2017 1:42 am
(@Gumbo)
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Don't care as long as its built

 
Posted : July 31, 2017 8:08 pm
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