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Honestly, I thought you were smarter than this.

 
Posted : May 17, 2017 6:52 pm
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where is the memo?

obama shared intel with russia. is it a problem now that trump has?

the constant media attack has me more convince that trump is right.

That really is the best method... at least that I've found.

Take what ever the MSM is pushing HARD, and the opposite is what you should be doing / thinking.

Especially when John Mcain is talking shit about trump... that's the biggest endorsement I could think of... haha

when they start to praise him ( like after the bombing in syria) is when I get worried.

 
Posted : May 18, 2017 1:50 am
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http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995/flashback-fbi-found-no-evidence-of-15839098/

LOL, you're right rotor, there is a huge difference. one was the media sweetheart and trump is the media devil

 
Posted : May 18, 2017 6:18 pm
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Posted : May 18, 2017 7:56 pm
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Thomas Sowell on Trump and Obama.

 
Posted : May 18, 2017 8:05 pm
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lol

 
Posted : May 19, 2017 10:44 am
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Well the gloating sure has died down now that people are seeing the true "competence" of this president a few months in.

Or maybe you guys are so used to the incompetent criminals in the VI profiting from governmental graft, nepotism and an ignorance of law that you're still thrilled?

 
Posted : June 28, 2017 12:16 am
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(tu)

 
Posted : June 28, 2017 8:34 pm
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I'm just happy that Hillary didn't win. I would rather have seen Gary Johnson win.

 
Posted : June 28, 2017 9:01 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VCBI2cMBQ

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 12:30 am
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That Obama clip was funny then. Not as funny anymore now that it's become clear that Russia heavily influenced, if not outright hacked, this election.

I'm no rabid Hillary fan by any means, Johnson was a joke, Bernie is a nutcase, and Jill Stein needs a hard punch in the throat.

But the Trump-emboldened Republicans are now completely empowered to hurtle us back into the 1950s. Race related incidents have seen a hundred-fold increase stateside since the election. Unemployment is up nationwide. Medicare is being severely threatened. Separation of church and state is a wistful fragment of the past. Graft and nepotism are reigning the White House. And we are about to see some shit go down that will make Nixon look like an altar boy.

Mark my words: we'll see multiple indictments within 12 months. It's bad news bears, folks.

(As a point of interest, I've been in the technology/internet industry since 1994, and have at various times held top secret government clearances. I'm speaking from a position of both knowledge of the means and methods used by foreign and domestic enemies, and from personal accounts related to me by friends in the intelligence community.)

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 1:11 am
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Trump was a response to the Obama presidency.

Obama divided this country more than any president in recent history.

"President Obama campaigned in 2008 on his ability to unite the country with the lofty claim that he would be the “change” he thought America needed. In 2012, he campaigned with the slogan, “Forward” ostensibly to signal that, if elected, he would continue to lead the charge for a better future for the nation. “Better” is a relative term and whether or not the state of the nation has improved is highly debatable. However, a recent study titled “Political Polarization in the American Public” by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press establishes that Obama’s title of “Great Uniter” was a misnomer – even the mainstream media has abandoned it because it reeks of hyperbole.

The majority of Americans are still somewhat left, or somewhat right of the political midpoint. However, according to the Pew Research Center (PRC), a recent survey of 10,000 adults across the nation revealed that the ideological divide between Democrats and Republicans and the “antipathy” between the two is “deeper and more extensive” than it has been in the past two decades. Further, statistically the divide is greater between those adults who are the “most engaged and active in the political process.”"
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/obama-the-great-uniter-new-study-on-political-divide-says-otherwise/

Please note that this article is from a left leaning website and was written before Trump even announced his presidency.

Gary Johnson was a successful two term governor of New Mexico, hardly a joke. He was more of a centrist than Hillary or Donald.

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 1:30 am
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That Obama clip was funny then. Not as funny anymore now that it's become clear that Russia heavily influenced, if not outright hacked, this election.

And now we know that Obama knew all about the hacking long before the election and did nothing about it, or at least almost nothing. Obama let Russia walk all over him.

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 1:43 am
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Trump raised 10 million last night for 2020.

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 10:30 am
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Trump raised 10 million last night for 2020.

a LOT of people see through the media's desperate attempts to paint a russia/trump connection as some novel thing or somehow bad.

When I used to watch TV, I'd look for what got the most coverage then assume that the opposite was true (or at least that the main narrative was manipulated heavily and most likely false). That worked out for me almost 90% of the time.

To those of you who still watch TV:

Try it out some time (if your willing to do your own research and come to conclusions with out being spoon-fed the answer.)

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 5:16 pm
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Maybe y'all missed this while living in your Alternative Facts delusions?

Fact Checker Analysis
President Trump’s first 100 days: The fact check tally

"President Trump is the most fact-challenged politician that The Fact Checker has ever encountered. He earned 59 Four-Pinocchio ratings during his campaign as president. Since then, he’s earned 16 more Four-Pinocchio ratings.

But those numbers obscure the fact that the pace and volume of the president’s misstatements means that we cannot possibly keep up.
The president’s speeches and interviews are so chock full of false and misleading claims that The Fact Checker often must resort to roundups that offer a brief summary of the facts that the president has gotten wrong."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/05/01/president-trumps-first-100-days-the-fact-check-tally/?utm_term=.8886ea2a0e1e

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 5:24 pm
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The president’s speeches and interviews are so chock full of false and misleading claims

And your point is?

aren't we WELL beyond 100 days now?

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 5:39 pm
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http://howlonghasdonaldtrumpbeenpresident.com/

The president’s speeches and interviews are so chock full of false and misleading claims

And your point is?

aren't we WELL beyond 100 days now?

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 5:49 pm
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My POINT is that he is a habitual and pathological Liar and STILL LYING and misrepresenting facts on a daily basis amongst his other unfit and unqualified, unbecoming to the highest office of the presidency traits!

I'm sure Fact checking can bring you up to date.

He's Trumplemeantweetingthinskin.
When is any of this slightly acceptable and when do you hold him accountable?

160 days in and he's still LYING.
Gee, y'all think it might be a pattern of behavior?

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 6:46 pm
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My POINT is that he is a habitual and pathological Liar and STILL LYING and misrepresenting facts on a daily basis amongst his other unfit and unqualified, unbecoming to the highest office of the presidency traits!

I'm sure Fact checking can bring you up to date.

He's Trumplemeantweetingthinskin.
When is any of this slightly acceptable and when do you hold him accountable?

160 days in and he's still LYING.
Gee, y'all think it might be a pattern of behavior?

Conservatives welcome this kind of behavior because it keeps their base and even many independents aware that if they don't vote the far left loons will ruin our country, they almost did.

 
Posted : June 29, 2017 8:25 pm
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find me an honest fact checking site

 
Posted : June 30, 2017 10:50 am
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http://howlonghasdonaldtrumpbeenpresident.com/

Wow, we are THAT lazy as a people now that a website exists to do simple math for us...

haha, that reflects my opinion of the general population however, so I guess I'm not overly surprised.

My POINT is that he is a habitual and pathological Liar and STILL LYING and misrepresenting facts on a daily basis amongst his other unfit and unqualified, unbecoming to the highest office of the presidency traits!

Uhh, since when is this a new thing? What president has NOT done this?

Do you think the president is "the leader of the biggest supper power in the world" or just a figure head set up so we can tare him down from the left or the right (depending on the year)?

Do you know how manipulated your opinion on this subject is, and how easy it is to see when viewed objectively?

I guess you are a "general population" representative, so I don't blame you.

Enjoy your TV and talking points. Hopefully you continue in your ignorance of the real world.. it's quite depressing when you understand it for what it really is.

find me an honest fact checking site

https://www.corbettreport.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q

I gotchu fam!

But current "fact checking" is a pointless venture, REAL investigative journalism (as seen in the two links above) is the best way to "fact check"..

 
Posted : June 30, 2017 12:53 pm
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What President EVER has LIED as much as this ego fragile narcissist.
Oh and I guess his nasty, vile tweets are just as acceptable and becoming to a president as his constant, never-ending barrage of LIES?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40458145

This is not normal nor should it ever be accepted as such.

 
Posted : June 30, 2017 4:03 pm
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