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Have you seen the project Veritas videos?

Sure seems like she might be, at least to some extent.

But aside from those "ducks"; your right, someones supporters are meaningless when disusing the person they support.

I have and its not a complete surprise that most of this is coordinated. If this was truly organic, they'd e just as pissed w/ HRC as DJT.

Both sides have an abundance of asshats and the fact that some ignore whats going on i their club is a sad commentary of how insulated and unthinking we've become as an electorate. Having an opinion and then searching for "facts" to support your view isn't how its supposed to work

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 3:20 pm
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Root cause of all of this, not everyone who could vote, voted. Last I saw about 120+ million voted, which was 5 million less than the last election. We have 330 million people in the US, of which 218 million can vote (only 146m are registered). It's pretty sad that something so important as who is going to be our next president is neglected by so many. There are very few countries who have such an opportunity to decide and when we can, we just don't do it. Or don't bother. I live in NY, because of NYC, it will always lean towards the left and I hear many people state that their vote doesn't count because of NYC, but I still vote no matter what, even though I lean to the right. It's the power that I was given and my voice will be heard.

Also, I was once against the Electoral college, until you look at how people vote. If we did not have the electoral college, basically California and the eastern seaboard would determine our fate. The rest of America would not be heard. There are a couple great videos on it and it really made me take a second look at why we have it and why it's important to our country.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 4:14 pm
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According to the Southern Poverty Law Center there have been over 300 cases of election related harassment, the majority perpetrated by trump's white supremacist followers who are celebrating.

200, not 300. And as I pointed out in an earlier post, not all of those are true.

More than 200 hate incidents — ranging from swastika graffiti to physical threats — have been reported across the country since Donald Trump's election, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit that monitors hate groups in the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/12/bad-year-for-minorities/93637192/

It was reported as 300 PLUS this morning, on CNN by the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center who was being interviewed at the time.
Whether 200 or 300, it's still too many.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 4:39 pm
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LAFAYETTE, La. -- A Muslim woman who claimed two men attacked her and stole her hijab hours after Donald Trump was elected president Wednesday, told police she made up the story, according to officials.

According to initial reports, the woman said at least one of the attackers was wearing a Donald Trump hat.

"During the course of the investigation, the female complainant admitted that she fabricated the story about her physical attack as well as the removal of her hijab and wallet by two white males," the Lafayette Police Department said in a news release.

Uh, huh. . . . in the interest of honesty and balance, I'm waiting with bated breath for you to post other news items containing the verified Trump-fueled incidents.

To be fair, its hard to keep the fake and true stories straight

Didn't trump disavow those?

Is Hillary responsible for the riots and looting by her supporters as well?

Yes it is hard. And I read every one of the ones I saw with skepticism. But there are plenty of videos, taken in real time, and school administrators and LE verifying that yes, reported incidents happened. The point was that they've happened, and it's disingenuous to put forth one incident that was falsely reported, with no disclaimer, that implies something other than the reality.

I haven't seen any such statement from Trump, although I may have missed it. Priebus and Ryan did for sure. But it misses my point.

Also missing the point is questioning whether the candidates are responsible for those who are breaking the law. The ultimate responsibility belongs to those breaking the law. Two wrongs don't make a right, however, but we first have to be fair and honest by admitting that there are two wrongs (aka supporters from 2 sides).

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 4:41 pm
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According to the Southern Poverty Law Center there have been over 300 cases of election related harassment, the majority perpetrated by trump's white supremacist followers who are celebrating.

200, not 300. And as I pointed out in an earlier post, not all of those are true.

More than 200 hate incidents — ranging from swastika graffiti to physical threats — have been reported across the country since Donald Trump's election, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit that monitors hate groups in the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/12/bad-year-for-minorities/93637192/

It was reported as 300 PLUS this morning, on CNN by the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center who was being interviewed at the time.
Whether 200 or 300, it's still too many.

Agreed. I linked the USAT report from a few hours ago.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 5:20 pm
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how many have been arrested rioting trumps victory across the nation?

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 5:43 pm
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So, if HRC was elected, all of these people wouldn't exist; right?

Why are you wasting your time talking about supporters? how is this anywhere near relevant to either candidate? (and how come the only video of violence I've seen comes from HRC supporters?)

this is a distracting topic that has absolutely no relevance to either candidate.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center there have been over 300 cases of election related harassment, the majority perpetrated by trump's white supremacist followers who are celebrating.

200, not 300. And as I pointed out in an earlier post, not all of those are true.

More than 200 hate incidents — ranging from swastika graffiti to physical threats — have been reported across the country since Donald Trump's election, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit that monitors hate groups in the USA.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/12/bad-year-for-minorities/93637192/

It was reported as 300 PLUS this morning, on CNN by the president of the Southern Poverty Law Center who was being interviewed at the time.
Whether 200 or 300, it's still too many.

Agreed. I linked the USAT report from a few hours ago.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 5:45 pm
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I haven't seen any such statement from Trump, although I may have missed it. Priebus and Ryan did for sure. But it misses my point.
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His 60 Minutes interview

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 5:55 pm
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I haven't seen any such statement from Trump, although I may have missed it. Priebus and Ryan did for sure. But it misses my point.
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His 60 Minutes interview

Thanks. Not a 60 minutes fan. Was going to watch the interview at some point.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 6:29 pm
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how many have been arrested rioting trumps victory across the nation?

It's not a race. No point in keeping score.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 6:32 pm
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didnt say it was. was just curious. so im taking it you dont know the answer

how many have been arrested rioting trumps victory across the nation?

It's not a race. No point in keeping score.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 6:49 pm
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-times-issues-apology-over-150305269.html

i found this interesting

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 6:49 pm
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Shen superintendent says racism, bigotry on rise in district:

"Abusive students "seemingly emboldened by the Trump presidential win," he says."

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Shen-superintendent-says-racism-bigotry-on-rise-10612684.php?cmpid=fbsocialflow

And not only there, unfortunately.

The Trump Effect: The Impact of the Presidential Campaign on Our Nation's Schools

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trump-effect-impact-presidential-campaign-our-nations-schools

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 7:03 pm
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Don't you find it odd that the 2-300 HRC supporters that are attacked, there is no camera/phone video to be found. It's all BS.

I've seen some good videos and pics of what happened to Trump supporters though. Just curious how that could be?

I don't trust the media anymore.

Never mind the website where this is from, as Alex jones is nuts, but here's the video that no on is showing on the left.

http://www.infowars.com/shock-video-black-mob-viciously-beats-white-trump-voter/

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 8:05 pm
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Shen superintendent says racism, bigotry on rise in district:

"Abusive students "seemingly emboldened by the Trump presidential win," he says."

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Shen-superintendent-says-racism-bigotry-on-rise-10612684.php?cmpid=fbsocialflow

And not only there, unfortunately.

The Trump Effect: The Impact of the Presidential Campaign on Our Nation's Schools

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trump-effect-impact-presidential-campaign-our-nations-schools

What about all the dipsh#ts that have been embolden by Hillary's loss?

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 9:21 pm
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Shen superintendent says racism, bigotry on rise in district:

"Abusive students "seemingly emboldened by the Trump presidential win," he says."

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Shen-superintendent-says-racism-bigotry-on-rise-10612684.php?cmpid=fbsocialflow

And not only there, unfortunately.

The Trump Effect: The Impact of the Presidential Campaign on Our Nation's Schools

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trump-effect-impact-presidential-campaign-our-nations-schools

What about all the dipsh#ts that have been embolden by Hillary's loss?
Plenty of their actions are not alledged
but on film.
Oh but wait they haven't done anything wrong, not even destroying property and assaulting people. Just like the Navy Kid was wrong and deserved jail but Hillary didn't. Hippocracy in the name of political correctness. "My little girl is scared of Trump and has nightmares" Give me a break. What kind of an idiot promotes that stuff?
Trump won because people are sick and tired of this kind of stupidity.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 9:23 pm
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The link I posted was not discussing the 200- 300 harassment incidents against Clinton supporters but the racism, xenophobia, and bigotry of trump supporters with regard to the bullying of children of color as described in the Southern Poverty Law Center's link.

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trump-effect-impact-presidential-campaign-our-nations-schools

It is a terrible thing that these children are being bullied by classmates and are stressed and so fearful. This is learned behavior, taught by parents, imitated by their children and inflicted upon non white children.

Bullying is bad enough and strides were being made but now, this racial and xenophobic discrimination, in this day and age, must not be tolerated.
None of us would want any child we loved to be subjected to such intolerance and hated.

We seem to forget that in reality, there is but one race, the Human Race and we are all connected on this fragile planet that we also continue to abuse.

Oh...and here is who Alex Jones of infowars is:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/alex-jones

"Alex Jones is almost certainly the most prolific conspiracy theorist in contemporary America."

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 9:25 pm
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didnt say it was. was just curious. so im taking it you dont know the answer

how many have been arrested rioting trumps victory across the nation?

It's not a race. No point in keeping score.

I did see that dozens were arrested in Portland, and I'm sure there were more elsewhere. But as I said, no point in keeping score, so I don't.

 
Posted : November 14, 2016 11:51 pm
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I did see that dozens were arrested in Portland, and I'm sure there were more elsewhere. But as I said, no point in keeping score, so I don't.

Wow, this is the most "USVI" way of talking... haha

Passive Aggressive award of the year!

not keeping score tho. (oh, the "not my president" riots are going on in about 5 major cities, burned cars, looted stores.... Not keeping track though)

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 12:02 am
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again, as i said-not keeping score. was just curious

didnt say it was. was just curious. so im taking it you dont know the answer

how many have been arrested rioting trumps victory across the nation?

It's not a race. No point in keeping score.

I did see that dozens were arrested in Portland, and I'm sure there were more elsewhere. But as I said, no point in keeping score, so I don't.

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 10:48 am
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correct

I did see that dozens were arrested in Portland, and I'm sure there were more elsewhere. But as I said, no point in keeping score, so I don't.

Wow, this is the most "USVI" way of talking... haha

Passive Aggressive award of the year!

not keeping score tho. (oh, the "not my president" riots are going on in about 5 major cities, burned cars, looted stores.... Not keeping track though)

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 10:49 am
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also wondering why hillary or obama have not spoken out against the riots. or have they and i just didnt see it on the news

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 10:50 am
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What about all the dipsh#ts that have been embolden by Hillary's loss?

In Florida there are cases of SCHOOL CHILDREN being beaten by classmates because they supported Trump.

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 10:53 am
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true, i have seen a whole lot of trump supports being abused/beat etc...

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 11:41 am
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I did see that dozens were arrested in Portland, and I'm sure there were more elsewhere. But as I said, no point in keeping score, so I don't.

Wow, this is the most "USVI" way of talking... haha

Passive Aggressive award of the year!

not keeping score tho. (oh, the "not my president" riots are going on in about 5 major cities, burned cars, looted stores.... Not keeping track though)

Nowhere did I say I wasn't disturbed and angered over this violence. I am. Speee1dy asked about the numbers of people arrested. I was skeptical of the motive (why ask about something so easy to google in this context, if not to imply a point?) When the response was that it was out of simple curiosity, I was good with that. I responded with what I've seen, and that I didn't know the exact numbers, because I don't consider that statistic relevant to the big picture. I'm more focused on the "what is happening" -on both sides of the aisle- than the "how many".

For someone so quick to point out logical fallacies when they serve your purpose, you don't seem to have a problem using them yourself - one of the reasons I don't respond to your posts. And I only did so here to let you know you missed my position completely, in the haste to further your own agenda. That, and to let you know that "passive aggressive" doesn't mean what you think it means.

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 12:34 pm
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