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(@Tiberius)
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Apparently the chairman of Barilla pasta Guido Barilla stated he would never use gays in his advertisements. He also stated that they can go buy someone elses pasta if they don't like it. His words sparked outrage and now there's a boycott of his company.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/26/pasta-firm-barilla-boycott-gay

 
Posted : September 28, 2013 5:52 pm
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Bertolli pasta responds

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Posted : September 28, 2013 9:30 pm
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Were they under any pressure to do so? Would they have to if they didn't want to? His reaction seems a little harsh.

 
Posted : September 28, 2013 10:05 pm
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this is just like the CHIC FIL A PROTEST. i 100% support gay people, straight people, whatever. if you are happy that is all that matters. but i also support a person/companies right to believe what they want to believe. i will not boycot/protest a companies right to run that company they way they wish.
chic fil a
hobby lobby
jc penny
abercrombie fitch

i am sure there are others. but it is their right to think and say and believe how they choose to. they have not hurt anyone. this country has become a nation of whiners who complain about everything. life is not always fair-get over it

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 12:49 pm
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Speedy - if it is the company's right to believe/say what they wish then it is also the right of anyone to believe/say or boycott what they wish. It goes both ways.

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 2:15 pm
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this is just like the CHIC FIL A PROTEST. i 100% support gay people, straight people, whatever. if you are happy that is all that matters. but i also support a person/companies right to believe what they want to believe. i will not boycot/protest a companies right to run that company they way they wish.
chic fil a
hobby lobby
jc penny
abercrombie fitch

i am sure there are others. but it is their right to think and say and believe how they choose to. they have not hurt anyone. this country has become a nation of whiners who complain about everything. life is not always fair-get over it

I agree 100%. Who has the right to tell any corporation who should be in their advertising? Then boycott their company because they don't get their way. You're right. This country has become a bunch of whining losers that have nothing better to do with their time. Some people sitting around just waiting for something else to protest. I am not going to stop buying Barilla pasta because the chairmman doesn't want gays in his advertising. That's his prerogative. He's trying to maintain the traditional image of his corporation. We also need to keep in mind that the company headquarters is in Italy. Very strict Roman Catholic beliefs.
I also think something was lost in the translation. It may not be what it seems.

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 2:37 pm
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this is just like the CHIC FIL A PROTEST. i 100% support gay people, straight people, whatever. if you are happy that is all that matters. but i also support a person/companies right to believe what they want to believe. i will not boycot/protest a companies right to run that company they way they wish.
chic fil a
hobby lobby
jc penny
abercrombie fitch

i am sure there are others. but it is their right to think and say and believe how they choose to. they have not hurt anyone. this country has become a nation of whiners who complain about everything. life is not always fair-get over it

hahahahahahahaha, my sentiments exactly, I don't tell other people how to live and I don't want anyone else telling me how to live either. Like it's been stated, Life ain't fair so get over it. I went and had me a Chic Fil A sandwich and it was the first time I had ever eaten there. I have eaten there several times since the "Boycott" because I found out I like their chicken.

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 6:44 pm
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But I must also add here, that when you are a business owner, it might be better for your bottom line to keep your personal beliefs to yourself especially when it could appear discriminatory. In this economy, businesses do not need help going out of business, they seem to be doing that quite well on their own.

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 6:50 pm
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i agree a little bit. during the chic fil a boycott they actually had more business. i personally am a person who has never had a problem with people based on how they live, religion etc.... but i do believe in a companies right to do business how they see fit as long as no one gets hurt.

 
Posted : September 29, 2013 9:05 pm
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Mtdoramike, I'm jealous. Our nearest Chick-fil-a is 3 hours away and I miss it. My hubby is the official "Chick-fil-a Fairy" out here. He even posted the story on their site. If I boycotted every store that I disagreed with we would be wearing homespun clothes made out of tumbleweed and eating dirt ( I live in The Vegas Valley so growing food is a challenge.) If you feel strongly about something them boycott them, but please quit whining because we don't all agree with you.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 2:29 am
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I fully support these businesses doing and saying what they want. That said, of course I'm not going to give them my money or to any other group or business who is confident in their hate, especially if its backed because of religion. That should never be an excuse. Screw them.

everything happens because of individual decisions. Your money is a good way to show you care.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 12:31 pm
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I fully support these businesses doing and saying what they want. That said, of course I'm not going to give them my money or to any other group or business who is confident in their hate, especially if its backed because of religion. That should never be an excuse. Screw them.

everything happens because of individual decisions. Your money is a good way to show you care.

Hi Jamison, Could you clarify what you mean? Do you think it's hate or religious belief?

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 8:04 pm
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i certainly did not consider it hate. just because it is someones religious belief does not make it hate.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 9:01 pm
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i certainly did not consider it hate. just because it is someones religious belief does not make it hate.

I agree. Recently the pope was criticized because of comments related to abortion and contraception etc. The point being that the Catholic church does not condone homosexuality. It's about religion not hate.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 9:11 pm
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Just because you're weilding a bible or whatever, doesn't make it not be hateful?. Peace and love is acceptance of others, even if you dont agree with them. If your chosen religion doesn't get that, that's not justification.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 10:56 pm
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Speee1dy, I agree with you. When did disagreement become equated with hate? Just because I disagree with your lifestyle, does not mean I hate you. I strongly disagree with my sister's political views, but I definitely do not hate her. I find it ironic that those who scream "intolerance and hate" are the same ones that bash others for their beliefs. If you want one group to be tolerant of your beliefs, you must do likewise.

 
Posted : September 30, 2013 11:46 pm
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I think there is a difference between not liking something a group of people do or a way they are and telling those groups theyre not welcome.

I don't like plenty of things about people, doesn't mean I don't think they should be viewed as less than equal the rest of us or made to feel unwelcome.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 12:34 pm
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What gets me about religious people who hate homosexuals, is that they claim allowing homosexual marriage violates their rights to freedom of religion. What goes on between two consenting adults is none of the religious people's business.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 1:21 pm
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just because those companies do not approve of the lifestyles of some does not mean they are not welcome to use those companies. i respect the lifestyle choices of most people ( not nambla or anything like that ) and i also respect other beliefs of what they think is right for them, does that mean i agree with their opinion-NO, it just means i am adult enough to know that not all people will agree with all things other people say and believe. it is your right not to shop at hobby lobby, chic fil a , barilla pasta and jc penney because you do not like what they believe in.

since when does not being in a commercial equate to being viewed as less than equal. but remember life is not fair and why should it be.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 1:25 pm
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It's up to each religion to decide what they want to accept and what they don't. Why brow beat a religious person or entity just because you dislike their views. If I don't like the views of a particular business, I don't shop their, if I don't like a religious point of view from a church organization, I would choose another religion or choose not to participate. But I'm not going to try and force feed my views or opinions on others.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 1:40 pm
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Who's browbeating a religious person? I just said that religion doesn't exuse hate.

im assuming that its only hate if you don't agree with it though, right? Because there has been a lot of religious fueled ethnic cleansing throughout history and that ccan't be acceptable, even if their religion says its okay.

but gays are icky, so this is different and its okay to tell them how unwelcome their subsect is. Were you down with black and white water fountains?

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 1:54 pm
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GAYS ARE NOT ICKY, GOOD GRIEF NOT ONE OF HAS SAID THAT. IT IS JUST NOT BARILLAS RELIGIOUS POINT OF VIEW

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 2:53 pm
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Religion does not excuse hateful personal beliefs.

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 3:10 pm
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Religion does not excuse hateful personal beliefs.

just to play devils advocate here... did he actually say anything hateful, or that he wouldn't use "gays" in advertisement?

because the two are completely different.

btw, this seems to me to be the old game of "all publicity is good publicity"... look at how chick filla's profit margins soared after their little media splash...

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 3:29 pm
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jamison, not everything you don't agree with or others dont agree with is hateful

 
Posted : October 1, 2013 3:42 pm
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