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(@Scubadoo)
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Yeah, with all the shooting going on in STX I might think twice about spending more time in STX if it wasn't for all the shooting/murders going on all over the mainland and in NC where I'd be otherwise.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 2:33 am
(@monogram)
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Yeah, with all the shooting going on in STX I might think twice about spending more time in STX if it wasn't for all the shooting/murders going on all over the mainland and in NC where I'd be otherwise.

"All over the mainland" is an exaggeration. In urban hellholes, sure.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 3:00 am
(@Scubadoo)
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All over in the general sense, not just isolated to one or to places, and not just urban hellholes either. A crazy went on a shooting rampage last week in NC and shot the local pawn shop owner, for no premeditated reason apparently.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 4:27 am
(@jahrustyferrari)
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Yeah, with all the shooting going on in STX I might think twice about spending more time in STX if it wasn't for all the shooting/murders going on all over the mainland and in NC where I'd be otherwise.

...meanwhile, those of us who are free of fear and paranoia spent another weekend hanging out with friends at the beach, squeezing some greenies, and dancing to reggae and soca...

~~yours truly,
99.99% of St. Croix

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 9:30 am
(@jahrustyferrari)
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All over in the general sense, not just isolated to one or to places, and not just urban hellholes either. A crazy went on a shooting rampage last week in NC and shot the local pawn shop owner, for no premeditated reason apparently.

You are more likely to die of medical malpractice than to be killed by some crazy guy.
100,000 Americans die each year from "preventable adverse events"... otherwise known as a mistake by your doctor that caused you to meet St. Peter at the Pearly Gates...LOL

That kinda puts your random crazy shooter in a totally different category...at least he may get caught and prosecuted for your untimely demise.

LMAO at paranoid, frightened people who don't sell drugs but are afraid of being shot by a drug dealer who has no interest in killing his potential customers.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 11:52 am
(@islandjoan)
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I'm not paranoid about being shot by a drug dealer who has no interest in killing his potential customers, but these days it seems there is a chance of being hit by a stray bullet by dudes who randomly spray automatic gunfire in populated areas.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 11:56 am
(@jahrustyferrari)
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I'm not paranoid about being shot by a drug dealer who has no interest in killing his potential customers, but these days it seems there is a chance of being hit by a stray bullet by dudes who randomly spray automatic gunfire in populated areas.

That's quite true, but there's also the chance that you may be hit by a stray car driven by a random drunk driver in a populated area...much more likely, too.

You stand a better chance of slipping and falling in the bathtub (thousands die each year from this) than being hit by a stray bullet.

Enjoy life, quit worrying...life is risky.

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 5:14 pm
(@Oldie1)
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I must agree with Jah; In my 26+years here I have never been afraid--that includes those crazy days after HUGO.

Just returned from a week in the states--I feel much safer on STX

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 6:56 pm
(@wanderer)
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You stand a better chance of slipping and falling in the bathtub (thousands die each year from this) than being hit by a stray bullet.

Correct. Here are the figures.

Probability of drowning while in or falling into bath tub, in a given year: about 1 in 800,000
Probability of dying from a stray bullet, in a given year: about 1 in 7,000,000

 
Posted : September 8, 2015 10:00 pm
MosquitoBaitt
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The violence, unfortunately, is bound to continue
The war on drugs is an abject failure The solution is obvious that drugs need to be legalized to end this.
LOL... you are so clueless if you believe this will change anything. LEGALIZE if and you will be overwhelmed with more violent crime than you could think is possible!

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 3:19 am
(@Spartygrad95)
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The violence, unfortunately, is bound to continue
The war on drugs is an abject failure The solution is obvious that drugs need to be legalized to end this.
LOL... you are so clueless if you believe this will change anything. LEGALIZE if and you will be overwhelmed with more violent crime than you could think is possible!

Really? See Portugal.
-Fin

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 9:52 am
(@fllisa)
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On our Jacksonville, FL news this morning - shooting on the northside, man kills his girlfriend and her friend in St. Augustine (just south of here), and a man who has been shot staggers into a burger king on our southside (fairly "nice" area), collapses, and dies on the way to the hospital. Life as usual in the big city.....

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 11:10 am
(@monogram)
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The population of Jacksonville is 8x that of the VI. Bad comparison. List a small town in FL with the VI's murder rate--that'd be a better comparison.

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 5:19 pm
(@speee1dy)
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my mom lives in a very small town -here is the data from her town -look at the murder rates

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Lake-Havasu-City-Arizona.html

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 5:27 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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East St Louis Illinois has 1/4 the population of entire VI AND 2x the murder rate.

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 6:12 pm
(@JohnnyU)
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That would make a great marketing slogan

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 7:47 pm
(@monogram)
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my mom lives in a very small town -here is the data from her town -look at the murder rates

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Lake-Havasu-City-Arizona.html

About 1 murder per year! I did Spring Break there one year. Loved it!

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 9:53 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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Lake Havasu City

The median income for a household in the city was $36,499, and the median income for a family was $41,393. Males had a median income of $31,594 versus $21,576 for females. The per capita income for the city was $20,403. About 6.6% of families and 9.5% of the population were below the poverty line, including 15.8% of those under age 18 and 5.2% of those age 65 or over.

USVI

The median income for a household in the territory was $24,704, and the median income for a family was $28,553. Males had a median income of $28,309 versus $22,601 for females. The per capita income for the territory was $13,139. About 28.7% of families and 32.5% of the population were below the poverty line, including 41.7% of those less than 18 years old and 29.8% of those 65 or more years old.

Any questions?

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 10:10 pm
(@wanderer)
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That would make a great marketing slogan

Haha. Yes, "Welcome to USVI. Our murder rate is twice lower than in East St Louis!".

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 10:37 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/flint/crime/#data

Flint, MI. Close in population, median income, poverty. Way higher murder rates.

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 11:01 pm
(@JohnnyU)
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Lake Havasu City

The median income for a household in the city was $36,499, and the median income for a family was $41,393. Males had a median income of $31,594 versus $21,576 for females. The per capita income for the city was $20,403. About 6.6% of families and 9.5% of the population were below the poverty line, including 15.8% of those under age 18 and 5.2% of those age 65 or over.

USVI

The median income for a household in the territory was $24,704, and the median income for a family was $28,553. Males had a median income of $28,309 versus $22,601 for females. The per capita income for the territory was $13,139. About 28.7% of families and 32.5% of the population were below the poverty line, including 41.7% of those less than 18 years old and 29.8% of those 65 or more years old.

Any questions?

Any reason you didn't quote the Wikipedia stats for ESL? Odd as you used it as a counter arguement

 
Posted : September 9, 2015 11:48 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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Well someone was comparing Lake Havasu to VI..

Here is East St Loius

The median income for a household in the city was $21,324, and the median income for a family was $24,567. Males had a median income of $27,864 versus $21,850 for females. The per capita income for the city was $11,169. About 31.8% of families and 35.1% of the population were below the poverty line, including 48.6% of those under the age of 18 and 25.2% of those 65 ages and older.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 12:03 am
(@Spartygrad95)
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Chester PA. Population 34000. Murders/100k 65

The median income for a household in the city was $23,703, and the median income for a family was $29,436. Males had a median income of $29,528 versus $21,005 for females. The per capita income for the city was $9,052. About 22.8% of families and 27.2% of the population were below the poverty line, including 36.9% of those under age 18 and 21.8% of those age 65 or over.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 12:11 am
(@monogram)
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That would make a great marketing slogan

Haha. Yes, "Welcome to USVI. Our murder rate is twice lower than in East St Louis!".

Or maybe

"Only a hair higher than Chicago!"

"The Compton of the Caribbean!"

The Spartan graduate fails to realize that by comparing us to the absolute worst cesspools in the US, he's proving our very point.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 12:43 am
(@Spartygrad95)
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No. Someone, maybe you, had said this murder rate is higher here than anywhere in the U.S. I'm simply providing information that disproves that. No one should be happy that the murder rate is what it is. I'm not relishing in comparing the VI to "cesspools". Be accurate. My phone nformation was also to show, again, correlation between poverty and murder rates. I have not been here long enough to say I have the answers. I don't. But I'm pretty sure I know it's not because we have no income inequality and the war on drugs is working great.

 
Posted : September 10, 2015 12:51 am
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