WAPA Power Meter Relocation

Well, where to begin..Some years ago (about 8), our property had a pole with the meter that had been renewed in December 89 after HH.
In 2003-2004 WAPA started renewing the High Tension (14 KV) distribution branch lines running from the feeders to the branch. That meant putting in new poles-

Originally, our meter box was mounted on the old High Tension Branch Pole, and we were told that new IEEE and other new regs prohibit the meter (or any other low voltage service) from being on a high tension pole. They installed the new high tension pole- and told us promptly in writing that we had to either change our pole or install a concrete meter housing or "monument". They let us slide- and we continued using our old pole- with nothing but the low voltage and meter on it.

But yes- if your meter, meter housing or service does not comply with code- they can disconnect you... BUT- two years ago, this "meter" pole started to fail, especially after storms and such- and we were forced to renew the service- this originally ran 500' down our driveway- since I am an engineer with a very strong electrical background, I suggested moving the service to another location closer to the house- and WAPA did it- Yes! they actually furnished another pole and made life easier- I still had to have trenches, underground conduit and the obligatory monument- but the line foreman in my area was a real gent and saved me thousands....

(See you guys think that I continuously bash WAPA- that's far from the truth, I just have issues with the way they run their plants and their overall management strategy or lack thereof)

So- Bottom Line- attempt to work with them. Tell them that you can't afford any big ticket electrical items- but remember that there is a pretty substantial and up to date electrical code here- and it prohibits the mixing of mutliple voltages on the same pole...especially where high tension is involved...

I had a very similar situation as well. Fortunately, I was doing some extensive renovations at the time and was able to trench from my lot line back up to the house inexpensively. I bought my cable from a distributor in Denver and had it shipped here landed at half the local cost of cable. Since we did a lot of the owrk ourselves, it wasnt a big deal.

Thanks for the valuable feedback. I believe my friend's meter is mounted on an existing building and there is only a mast-head feed drop which comes from an adjacent parcel. The only voltage level on the drop is that feeding the residence. The existing feed has also been there for years.

I am not familiar with the term "renewing" of power service. I am guessing that if your power is disconnected for some reason (e.g. hurricane), WAPA then treats the reconnection as new service? Seems odd to me that if one previously has had service, with a WAPA acceptable feed, at a given location, and for whatever reason the service was interrupted, then WAPA can impose their tactics to require you to move your service to wherever they dictate?

Any further advice is appreciated.

I would tend to think not. NEC (National Electric Code) has pretty stringent regs for meter heads and service entries, along with UL- these are probably intergral to our code- as I remember the VI updated the code for parity...

I'll try and dig something up. But, I would also think that a residential service already existing on a fixed structure meeting code is satisfactory- WAPA could dictate moving the feeder to the service to clear obstacles, inherent dangers (trees and such) but would have NO impact on an existing service meeting code.

Ok, I am digging stuff up on this. There appears to be a minimum overhead cable requirement of 12 feet from the street level going in to the weather head leading to the service....It's interesting to note that ALL of the cable requirements are generally the responsibility of the utility- with the exception of distances over a certain lenght (some states have 1000 feet max) outside of the weatherheads...

The pole at the end of my driveway is leaning badly (30 degrees). One of the WAPA lines is on the ground and has been for months. WAPA came out and looked and said they would need to get a supervisor to check it out. Still nothing. The next storm it will go down along with my house power. Any ideas on how to get this fixed? Help!!!!

The pole at the end of my driveway is leaning badly (30 degrees). One of the WAPA lines is on the ground and has been for months. WAPA came out and looked and said they would need to get a supervisor to check it out. Still nothing. The next storm it will go down along with my house power. Any ideas on how to get this fixed? Help!!!!

Been there done that, You just have to keep calling and if, after a half dozen calls (during which you remain charmingly pleasant) nobody comes out to fix the problem then send an email to the Executive Director. I only had to resort to the latter once and thereafter I had no problems when future issues came up. Good luck!

Thanks Old Tart I'll start my friendly sugar coated call program.I'll let you know how many calls it takes to get some action.

Also, try Lorna Nichols over at the PSC- they have done wonder with this before- sometimes an "unofficial call" works wonders- especially with Innovative....

WAPA's guy came by and looked at the pole and said that we pulled the pole over and was as rude as can be. Since I lost my super powers I am no longer able to push power poles over by hand. The pole shows on sign of being pushed by a car or tractor it must be supernatural forces at work.When the next storm makes it go down I hope no one gets hurt.

My pole was leaning at a serious angle and we knew it would fall over at some point. Sure enough, the WAPA supervisor came over after me calling dozens of times and said it was my problem since the pole was on my property.

Of course, it eventually fell over. When I called WAPA to fix it, they came right over, took all the copper cable from the pole to my house and the meter but refused to supply a new pole or fix anything.

My question to them was...if the pole is on my property and therefore I own it, why don't I own the copper going from the pole to my house?

They couldnt or wouldnt answer that.

My first mistake was calling them in the first place.