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(@robo841)
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Do you have to surrender your stateside driver's license at the DMV to get a VI driver's license - or just show proof that you have a valid license? I don't want to give up my California license - might have to get a duplicate if that's the case!

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:13 am
Jules
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Surrender Dorothy...

And it has to be an unexpired license or else you have to take the test.

You no longer have to have a doctor's exam, though.

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:23 am
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I'll definately get a duplicate then - I can't give up my California ID!

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:28 am
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Yeah, I understand. Almost made me cry to give up my license. Best picture ever taken of me (go figure, a DRIVERS license for cryin' out loud). The picture was so good I considered committing a crime so they'd show it on the news, hee hee.

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:44 am
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They would show your MUG SHOT - not your driver's license picture!! Unless of course you were a fugitive - it would definately be worth a try. In California you can get a duplicate for $10 - worth it!

Robin

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:52 am
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That's a good idea. I've been here 10 months now and have been wavering on getting a license. It's definitely time I did and I'll get a duplicate Florida one too.

Do you have to surrender your stateside license AND show them your social security card? I haven't seen tthat thing since I was like 15. I heard you can order one in Nisky Center but has anyone done that? If so, how long does it take to get it?

Thanks.
Jen

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 11:49 am
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I also couldn't find my SS card. I went to Nisky and ordered another one. It took a few weeks to arrive.

Word of advice. When the woman asked me why I needed a new card, I said I couldn't find my original. She asked if it was lost. I said that I couldn't find it-- perhaps it was in a box in storage in the States. Wrong answer. She said if I just couldn't find it she would not let me have a new one-- that the card had to be LOST lost. Good grief. She relented, though.

So, tell them you LOST it. The dog ate it. Flushed down the toilet. Flew out of your hand into the ocean while on the ferry. Anything except that you just can't find it right now.

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 1:51 pm
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So you need your stateside license and social security card - anything else?

Thanks,
Robin

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:05 pm
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The last I knew you still need to take a vision test and bring the results in on DMVs form. If you have a passport it doesn't hurt to bring it to prove how old you are.

Jim

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 2:44 pm
Trade
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Here's a good post by Jules with info about the procedure:

https://www.vimovingcenter.com/talk/read.php?4,65730,65730#msg-65730

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 4:21 pm
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Trade - thanks - great info!

Robin

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 4:32 pm
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haha thanks, Jules!

 
Posted : July 21, 2007 11:04 pm
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Just to note, it is illegal to have two driver's license at the same time. Don't carry both with you at anytime. That being said, it would be easier to tell CA that you lost your license and get another one there. Then you can give one of them to the VI to get a license instead of doing all the tests.

Teresa

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 1:33 pm
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Teresa:

I figured I would leave my CA driver's license here in a safe deposit box, but not keep it on me. I'm definately not looking for trouble!

Thanks,
Robin

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 1:42 pm
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It IS illegal, and communication between the DMV of the USVI and the states has improved vastly over the last couple of years. So I wouldn't swear to anything (like you "lost" your license) in order to get a second license.

You should also make sure this (not having a valid license) will not void your car insurance.

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 5:34 pm
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I would not bank on your CA license remaining valid once you have received a VI license. Post 9/11 the Feds, in lieu of setting up a national ID card are forcing all US states and territories to improved the validity and quality of drivers licenses as a source of identification. That is why the VI changed the format of their driver's license. The new format meets the Federal standards.

As part of the process the state issuing a new license is supposed to notify the state that issued your prior license that you surrendered your prior license. The prior state is then supposed to confirm that your license was valid and not suspended or revoked. They are also supposed to cancel the driver's license in their data base. This process also prevents drunks, and drivers with multiple moving violations from obtaining multiple licenses.

If you get stopped while driving and present you CA license and everyone has done their job when the cop punches the licenses number into his computer your license won't come up as valid. If they really want to bust your chops then the VI and CA could charge you with perjury.

An additional problem will be that you probably won't be able to purchase auto insurance using the CA license. When the insurance company goes to check your driving record using a canceled driver's license number it isn't going to work.

If you don't have a passport and use the CA license as ID when traveling back to the mainland you could also have problems since the license isn't valid. You have in effect presented TSA with false identification. You might not be able to enter the US and/or you might go to jail.

Jim

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 5:51 pm
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robo, just curious, why is it such a big deal to keep your CA license? You can always get another if you go back. I assume it is sentimental? I fully understand Jules' perspective. A really good drivers license picture is hard to come by!

If you go back to CA., you could always "lose" your VI license. You might have to take all the tests, etc., but you would have a great memento of your time here.

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 10:35 pm
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Simply lose it before you get your vi license. That way you will have an extra before you turn yours into the vi govt.

 
Posted : July 22, 2007 11:56 pm
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Souvenir purposes only. Don't try to use it. Just put it into a scrapbook.

That's if it's CA to VI ...or... VI to CA. Computers are all connected.

 
Posted : July 23, 2007 12:19 am
 Eve
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I just went through all this on STX. The process was simple. I also had the dilemma of wanting the duplicate Ohio license before surrendering it to the VI. Oh well! When I went in to get the pic for the VI license I was impressed at the technology. I decided than and there not to report to Ohio that I had 'lost' my license. Besides, I live and work in the VI now.

 
Posted : August 5, 2007 8:45 pm
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Eve,
Do you or do you not need to bring passport photos with you...if they take your picture at the DMV?

Thanks

 
Posted : August 10, 2007 4:42 pm
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You still need to bring the passport photos for their files. The picture they take is for your license only.

 
Posted : August 10, 2007 9:57 pm
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Eve-what part of OH are you from? I live in Columbus.

 
Posted : August 12, 2007 8:36 pm
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