TSA May Soon Reject Some Drivers' Licenses

This is really OLD news. Several states as well as the USVI haven't yet been able to comply with the new regulations but have been given grace time.

It's old news that the requirements were put in place, and that there has been a grace period, but TSA always allowed those drivers' licenses. The fact that that policy may soon change is the news.

This is really OLD news. Several states as well as the USVI haven't yet been able to comply with the new regulations but have been given grace time.

The end of the current grace period is January 10. The VI is still under review for the next grace period, which would extend until October.

It's old news that the requirements were put in place, and that there has been a grace period, but TSA always allowed those drivers' licenses. The fact that that policy may soon change is the news.

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So when I renew my license later on this year, will they issue an old or new one?

Good question. I don't remember what the delay is this time, but Olive seemed to be all in favor of implementing fed requirements. I'll print out the article and show it to whoever and see if it starts a discussion.

If TSA enforces Real ID, could have a negative impact on tourism.

Don't most people have passports in 2015?

Don't most people have passports in 2015?

Don't passports discriminate against the poor and minorities?

If voter IDs are too difficult for them to get, passports are way harder.

Huh?

So the poor are doing a lot of air travel. Strawman much?

Read the complete sentence. Are you capable of that? Are minorities doing any air travel or are they barred from that.

What I was trying to ask is why is it considered racist to require a photo id to vote but apparently is not racist to require a photo id to travel, even within the US? Do minorities have a harder time getting a voter id than getting a passport or real id?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/gov-nikki-haley-voter-id-laws-not-racist

Read the complete sentence. Are you capable of that? Are minorities doing any air travel or are they barred from that.

What I was trying to ask is why is it considered racist to require a photo id to vote but apparently is not racist to require a photo id to travel, even within the US? Do minorities have a harder time getting a voter id than getting a passport or real id?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/gov-nikki-haley-voter-id-laws-not-racist

No one seriously argues that requiring IDs to travel is racist. Requiring a driver's license to engage in the constitutionally protected inalienable right to vote is the issue.

No one seriously argues that requiring IDs to travel is racist. Requiring a driver's license to engage in the constitutionally protected inalienable right to vote is the issue.

A right only allowed to a US citizen. Who should be required to prove it.

Dafuq? Are we seriously trying to draw a comparison between a right granted to us and a privilege for the few? I won't even engage in utter nonsensical bs like this. The idea of voter fraud has been debunked over and over again.

Except here in the VI where Board of Elections can't account for 3000 missing ballots in the last election.

Except here in the VI where Board of Elections can't account for 3000 missing ballots in the last election.

I can't find my college diploma does that mean I didn't graduate?

Except here in the VI where Board of Elections can't account for 3000 missing ballots in the last election.

I can't find my college diploma does that mean I didn't graduate?

If I am going to hire a college graduate, then yes, you didn't graduate.

Weird. I have been asked exactly ZERO times in 20 years since graduating to show a diploma. Maybe I should call MSU and ask for a copy so I can carry around a framed copy with me. We have this marvelous thing these days called the "internet" we're you don't have to carry around a diploma or a rolladex these days.

Does anyone really care about a degree from MSU?

That being said, it sounds like you have some proof of graduation if asked (Transcripts, etc).

Anyone discounting voter fraud is serious;y in denial and would suggest that they visit Chicago for an election.

How many VI politicians claimed degrees and didn't have one?

I have never provided anything whatsoever. Diploma. Transcripts. Pictures of me hungover in classroom. Zero. That said, it sounds like I need to pad my resume. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/

My state of PA passed a Voter ID law in 2012. After a trip to the Supreme Court, and back to the state court, it was struck down in early 2014 and an appeal was abandoned 5 months later. They did this because a) they couldn't prove even one case of voter fraud because a photo ID wasn't available, and b) people who were born in the state and had voted for decades were flagged or turned down (including me) due to discrepancies between the state's records and the info being personally submitted. We're talking, as I recall, over 100,000 people who had to go to additional expense, and spend extra time, satisfying the government in order to vote. Those people who didn't have the time or money to go up to 70 miles, sometimes more than once, gave up. I was lucky that the main office was a 15 minute drive from home.

Not sure if it disenfranchised on a racial basis. But it sure did knock the poor of all races out of their rights.

Voter ID laws and drug testing for Welfare, both proven ineffective and brought to you by the "small government" folks. Small government for them, big government when they can wield it to demonize and disenfranchise the poor and minorities. Murica

You are not REQUIRED to show a driver's license to satisfy TSA requirements. What you ARE required to produce if asked (and assuming you don't have a passport) is a government-issued photographic ID and a copy of your birth certificate.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/980/kw/reentry%20from%20us%20virgin%20islands/session/L3NpZC91dTRBY3E2bA%3D%3D/p/0/c/0

Most, but certainly not all, people have a driver's license which is the easiest thing for them to come up with.