Notifications
Clear all

Sea Bed Permits

(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

How difficult is it to attain a sea bed permit? I understand the DNR is limiting permits and they are hard to get, any info. We are buying a boat and don't know if we are going to put her in charter or just keep her on a ball.

 
Posted : May 31, 2009 11:59 pm
(@pamela)
Posts: 1171
Noble Member
 

Depends on the location. What island and what bay are you thinking about?
Pamela

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 12:30 am
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

St Thomas, pretty much anywhere I can get one. How safe is it to leave a boat unattended? We will have someone start the engines and air out the boat. We would like to spend a month in the summer and a month in the winter aboard. We have weighed the options of charter and have not decided as of yet. My son is attending UVI so Brewer's bay might be an option. If I can get a permit, I was quoted $1500-$2000 to have a mooring ball installed.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 12:51 am
Exit Zero
(@exit-zero)
Posts: 2460
Famed Member
 

Brewers Bay doesn't permit permanent moorings -- the closest would be Elephant Bay probably.
Leaving the boat unattended for 5 months - safe? guess it depends what is on it worth stealing - wouldn't seem prudent and during Hurricane season likely a very bad decision.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 1:11 am
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Most boat insurance requires the boat to be on the hard during huricane season. Many people own boats in STT who do not live there full time. We have talked to people on island who watch boats for a living. A slip would be in the $500 a month area, which brings us back to chartering maybe CYOA or in BVI.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 1:39 am
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

I can not find Elephant Bay on my map, a little help please.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 1:44 am
(@east-ender)
Posts: 5404
Illustrious Member
 

Water Island.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 2:02 am
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

not all that helpful, I'm sure there are more availability then just water island.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 7:45 am
(@pamela)
Posts: 1171
Noble Member
 

See if you can find Gregorie East on your charts. It is close.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 3:37 pm
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

I found it west of Hassel Island, permits available?

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 4:07 pm
(@pamela)
Posts: 1171
Noble Member
 

possibly. I will be talking to DPNR about a couple of other issues this week. Will ask and let you know.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 5:41 pm
dntw8up
(@dntw8up)
Posts: 1866
Noble Member
 

You can call the DPNR and ask where, if anywhere, sea bed permits are available. You can find their number here: www.viphonebook.com

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 11:22 pm
Exit Zero
(@exit-zero)
Posts: 2460
Famed Member
 

Gregorie East is the name of the channel between Hassel and Water Island -- it is not a mooring area - Elephant Bay is--- and it is the N side of Water Island, closest to the Brewers Bay questioned area, as mentioned before.

 
Posted : June 1, 2009 11:30 pm
(@bill_p)
Posts: 3
New Member
 

Can someone tell me what is commonly used to secure a mooring ball. Screw type, cement blocks or whatever. Thanks

 
Posted : August 25, 2009 4:42 pm
Exit Zero
(@exit-zero)
Posts: 2460
Famed Member
 

Generally three 5'-6' sand screws in a triangle with chain up to a swivel with line up through your ball, with a pickup line, or two, or a pickup buoy. Certainly concrete blocks won't work, sometimes heavy anchors are used but you need the scope and cantenary to make that work and you generally don't have that kind of space, the old mushroom anchors are used sometimes but the most common tackle is the sand screw.

 
Posted : August 25, 2009 6:10 pm
(@Best_Friend)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

Hi Pamela:

I'm also looking to get a mooring have you a method via email for me to request one through DPNR?
I really have no idea what the costs are and would like to do this.
My boat and I are hoping to arrive in late Sep or early Oct.

Thanks

Jay

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 8:40 pm
(@Michaelds9)
Posts: 328
Reputable Member
 

Right now I'm wishing our boat was somewhere else.....

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 8:44 pm
(@sail2wind)
Posts: 83
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Best Friend,

I have researched the mooring ball situation and you must do it in person. You have to obtain what areas are available and present GPS coordinates to DPNR and this does not assure you of a spot. The cost is only $250 a year fro the seabed permit and about $2000 for a mooing ball. Hope this helps, best if you callDPNR.

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 8:52 pm
(@Best_Friend)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

Hello

Thank You

Can I assume DPNR told you what areas are available?

I also found this link quite interesting.

http://www.vinow.com/general_usvi/more_info/marinas/

It shows many anchoring locations for all 4 of the USVI.

I drop you a pvt mssg here too.

Jay

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 9:16 pm
(@Best_Friend)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

Sorry these are the anchor spots

http://www.usvi.net/usvi/marina.php

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 9:30 pm
(@east-ender)
Posts: 5404
Illustrious Member
 

Best Friend: I suspect you are not on island. DPNR is not going to tell you where you can apply, but they will tell you where you cannot. There are no permits being allowed for many of those designated mooring areas at this time. There is a group working toward a mooring plan for the St James Marine Reserve, which includes: the Lagoon, Secret Harbour, Cowpet Bay, Christmas Cove. Space is very limited in many of the other mooring fields. You will really need to talk with someone from DPNR. Right now, it is very difficult to find a place to keep a boat.

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 9:48 pm
(@Best_Friend)
Posts: 21
Eminent Member
 

East Ender

Once again thanks for the input you've been helpful previously for me too.
Do you know if I am correct in assuming that dropping anchor in the designated areas from that web link I just posted will be fine in the interim?
I'll give them a call and see if I can at least get on a list for these new locations.
I'm guessing progress there is as slow as it is everywhere else and this mooring plan may be months or years in the making?

Thanks Again

Jay

 
Posted : August 31, 2009 10:15 pm
Search this website Type then hit enter to search
Close Menu