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not to mention all of the restaurants that get robbed near you jumbie

 
Posted : March 28, 2013 9:12 pm
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All this crime talk makes me want to spend a few thousand dollars buy gps trackers, and surveillance equipment. I will install gps trackers in flat screen tv's and other gadgets I own. Also do the same to my car and leave gadgets with hidden gps trackers inside my car. It would be interesting to install some nanny cams inside some gadgets as well. *Dreams of being the ST. Croix super hero* :D. lol

 
Posted : March 29, 2013 1:19 am
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not to mention all of the restaurants that get robbed near you jumbie[/quote

You are so correct about the businesses in Cane Bay having multiple breakins every year. Between OTW, Eat @Cane Bay, Sprat Net, & The Cane Bay Dive Shop -- I lost track on the number of break-ins, especially the last 2 yrs we lived there.

Jumbie

 
Posted : March 29, 2013 9:40 am
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Can anyone recommend a condo that sits on the beach,but is within walking distance to a grocery store and shopping, bank?
Also, l have a hard time trying to figure out where there's a beach that is shallow?

Kindly,

Naturelover

 
Posted : June 22, 2015 11:41 pm
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Can anyone recommend a condo that sits on the beach,but is within walking distance to a grocery store and shopping, bank?
Also, l have a hard time trying to figure out where there's a beach that is shallow?

Kindly,

Naturelover

On STX, I can't think of any beach that's a short walk to a grocery store and shopping, bank. Therefore, I don't think any condo (built or un-built) would meet those criteria.

What do you mean by a shallow beach? As far as i know, on most STX beaches, you can go in for at least several yards before it gets over 3 to 5 feet deep.

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 2:22 am
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Schooner Bay Condos or Fort Augusta Condos in Gallows Bay have nice views of the harbor and are a short walk to both Gallows Bay/Christiansted for shopping/banking and restaurants. Seaside Market for groceries, Bank of St Croix for banking. No Bones and Maria's Cantina for restaurants. All in Gallows Bay, a very easy walk.

These condos are not on the beach but are on a hill overlooking Christiansted Harbor and are within walking distance of a few beaches. You can see the beach from the condos. They are located on the hill (Mt Welcome) behind St Croix Marine.

Nearby beaches include the beach on Protestant Cay accessible via Hot C as well as the very nice beach on the point past the Altoona Lagoon Park. This beach is out by the old radio station at the harbor entrance (this would be the closest beach). From there it is also a nice walk to the Buccaneer Hotel and their beach walking along the beach past the golf course.

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 2:53 am
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The Mill Harbor/colony cove/ sugar beach/club st cxroix condos are on the beach (some units directly, others just a building or so off the water...and you can walk to grocery stores, bank, fast-food and actually even into downtown Christiansted if a little longer walk is not an issue.

 
Posted : June 23, 2015 4:13 pm
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The east end is "US in the VI" lots of higher income people with gated communities that aren't really intigrating very well (IMO).

Agreed. If this were anywhere else, they would call it "segregated."

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 9:40 pm
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Good grief!
I'm sure if you decided to live in that location, no one would be discrimating about color so let's not bandy the word segregation around so casually and callously. I've seen lots of people of all colors not integrate well into local island life. And, I've seen lots that have.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 1:44 am
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Didn't necessarily mean race, but that's a factor. That's why I used quotation marks. There might be a "sprinkling" or token representation of a particular race in friend-groups, but most groups on the east end are monolithic. It's pretty weird for an island that is so diverse.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 5:35 am
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The east end is "US in the VI" lots of higher income people with gated communities that aren't really intigrating very well (IMO).

Agreed. If this were anywhere else, they would call it "segregated."

In my opinion both of these statements are false. Tammy

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 10:11 am
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monogram, it seems that you always want to start some sort of trouble. your statements are false. maybe you need to get out more

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 10:36 am
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I'm out 4-5 nights a week lol. I'm far more qualified to speak on it than you. People who move here tend not to admit the racial disparities in economics and how that leads to social segregation, particularly in the schools. Maybe they're not aware of it, or perhaps they move here with the same sense of denial that plagues most Americans generally.

I frequent the "finest" restaurants (the ones usually mentioned on this board) on STX several times a week with friends, and I am almost always the only person of color there. The customers NEVER reflect the population of the island (80% black/hispanic). I'll be taking pictures tonight at dinner to post for our readers!

PS- I have a great times at most venues, but claiming that the customers are diverse or that they reflect the population is a blatant lie.
PPS- Speedy is an old white woman (met her once) whose friend group does not reflect the demographics of the island.

Happy Thursday!!

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 7:21 pm
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I need to amend my post. I disagreed with LiquidFluroride and monogram but what they said is actually true somewhat. In our case, we live on the East End in Cotton Valley. We do not live in a gated community and our area is very diverse. Our nearest neighbors are crucian or are from down island and most of them stop by on their early morning walks and hang out on our porch for a while. Our 11 year old son is homeschooled and all his friends are crucian, from down island, or hispanic. His favorite place to hang out is Altoona Lagoon. I would agree that more white statesiders live on the East End. I don't know who they are friends are except for the few that are our friends. I feel like we fit in quite well with the majority of the population and we do not segregate ourselves but I do know others that do.

I think monogram gives very accurate statements about what it is like to be a local young adult or teenager on St. Croix and I believe that most young Crucians will tell you exactly the same thing.

Tammy

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:02 pm
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P. S. Monogram I'm an "old" white lady as well. Almost 60.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:15 pm
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Monogram, you're obviously intelligent and articulate but you need to observe the manners I'm sure your mother instilled in you. No one appreciates being call old, and the whole reference to speee1dy was completely unnecessary and uncalled for.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:42 pm
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Agreed Alana.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:45 pm
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I realized that my post was a bit rude. I was a bit upset that she said I should get out more lol. I am attempting to edit or remove my post--it's just not worth it. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to edit it...Not sure why there's no "edit" button. 🙁

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 11:11 pm
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I think monogram gives very accurate statements about what it is like to be a local young adult or teenager on St. Croix and I believe that most young Crucians will tell you exactly the same thing.

Tammy

Thanks, Tammy! 🙂

I came here to do just that--give the perspective of a young local. As a quite social public school graduate who was involved in all sorts of extracurricular activities (Tae Kwon Doe, Band, Math Counts) I had not met a single white person until I left for college in the states.

While you do live in a diverse area (Cotton Valley), most areas are not. Most locals, apart from the "wealthy" (and by wealthy I generally mean the children of gov't bureaucrats), live in areas like Strawberry, Mon Bijou, Williams Delight, and Whim. I can guarantee that most have never had a conversation with a white person.

The portrayal of St. Croix as a melting pot is inaccurate, and I wish more people would be honest. There are exceptions: Rainbow Beach, Sandbar (F'sted in general, really), and Brew Pub are pretty integrated social spots. But even so, groups are still mostly homogenous (there will be a group of white kids and a group of black kids, but little mixing, for example). I have been to a certain popular Friday night spot three times in the last month, and each time, I was the only person of color there. Meanwhile, at other events, there are no whites to be found. 😀

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 11:28 pm
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Pushing 60 is not old.....but smarter ...

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 12:17 am
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Giggle, thanks Susan. Age is just a number and I have a little boy who keeps me young.

monogram, I like your posts. You are a very intelligent young man and most young men your age, especially a local, (born here Crucian) would not post on this message board and I wonder why you do but I am happy that you are here and giving input to those wanting to move here.

I really enjoy interacting and talking to young Crucians or other than white stateside transplants. As I said earlier that my sons favorite place to hang out is Altoona Lagoon. Not many white folks there. I agree with you that most of the local folks that hang out there have very little interaction with white people. Some of the children there are just in awe that we are there at all. After the initial awkwardness we have been so accepted. I love that my son has been thrown off the end of the pier and swam to shore and later jumped off the bridge with all his crucian friends. A right of passage and acceptance.

I got lost once in one of those neighborhoods where locals have never interacted with a white and then my car broke down. A young man stopped, hovering over me and protecting me, so worried because I was in the "wrong" neighborhood. I kept assuring him that I was fine and knew how to fix my car but he refused to leave until he knew I was ok.

I love the people of St. Croix. Yes, there is bad stuff and crime and can be a scary place for both locals and transplants alike. Maybe it is because I am a "mature" aka, old lady woman, but I have never felt more loved and accepted than from the people of St. Croix.

monogram, I hope you will continue to post. We need more "born here" people to give their input.

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 12:46 am
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Pushing 60 is not old.....but smarter ...

And richer 😉

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 12:46 am
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monogram, I like your posts.

I got lost once in one of those neighborhoods where locals have never interacted with a white and then my car broke down. A young man stopped, hovering over me and protecting me, so worried because I was in the "wrong" neighborhood. I kept assuring him that I was fine and knew how to fix my car but he refused to leave until he knew I was ok.

monogram, I hope you will continue to post. We need more "born here" people to give their input.

Aww that story warms my heart. To be clear, though, I have intentionally not disclosed my gender.

I can tell that you are in tune with the social undercurrents and ailments affecting the community. You have a very nuanced approach to island life, which is different from the simplistic analyses often touted here. The fact that you would take your child to Lagoon says a great deal about you as a person. It appears that your kid will have a much more diverse experience than many, and he will have you to thank for that.

The people who claim to find my posts incredulous don't realize that they, in doing so, are proving my very point about how segregated it is. It IS pretty unbelievable that most people who grow up here have little to no close friends (best friend level) who are of a different race. Or that we grow up in a community that is 25% Hispanic, yet often can't understand one ounce of Spanish. Or that white people who are born and raised here often have no trace of an accent and often cannot understand the Crucian dialect (some of my friends who went to CDS often ask me to explain what locals are saying even though they grew up here). It's an objectively segregated community. The first step to solving it is admitting it.

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 1:08 am
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I will agree with you monogram. It is not just a racial divide it is a "huge" socioeconomical divide. The privileged on island have very little interaction with the less than privileged on island. This is a huge problem. It is very sad. All people have value and the segregation of the "haves" and have nots is very obvious to me. I am a "have" yet I chose to socialize with the "have nots". My child does not got to private school so he is ostracized from his peer group of other children who are privileged on island. He is also ostracized from other "white" children because of his enjoyment and friendship of the "have nots" on island. We could not be happier.

So I will take the first step and admit it. The community is segregated. I will stand by my first statement and disagree with LiquidFloride and monogram about my community because it does not apply to me personally, but both are corrrect that there is a huge divide that in my opinion is not so much racial or geographical, west or east, but socioeconomical. With that being said, no one who moves to the VI will get it and birds of a feather flock together. I have only met one other couple who moved here, got involved with the local community that feels the same. I will call them the two Js. They know who they are.

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 2:01 am
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This might sound a little weird as it's hard to properly put into words but have you ever had that moment when you're talking to someone of your own color about someone you know when for some very minor and obscure reason the person you're talking to sort of sidesteps around but asks what is the ethnicity of the person you're talking about - and you have to think about the response because their color is irrelevant and you can't remember for a moment? If you've had those moments you'll know what I mean and if you don't know what I mean then you'll think, "Cheese 'n' bread, the Old Tart is so old she's losing her marbles"!!! 😀

 
Posted : June 26, 2015 9:31 am
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