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(@Spartygrad95)
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I have half a dozen loaves of bread baking in the oven and I think that says a lot about the whole state of affairs.

Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 5:58 pm
(@LiquidFluoride)
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Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
http://time.com/4060575/alphabet-google-dont-be-evil/
https://www.quora.com/Is-Google-an-evil-company
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2015/04/20/why-google-is-new-evil-empire.html

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywHp0mFUSg

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??

Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 6:18 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
http://time.com/4060575/alphabet-google-dont-be-evil/
https://www.quora.com/Is-Google-an-evil-company
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2015/04/20/why-google-is-new-evil-empire.html

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywHp0mFUSg

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??

Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 6:29 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

Moringa garlic bread is wonderful - right out of the oven it's sheer heaven!!! I think eaten regularly it would solve the PR financial crisis, assist in relieving the VI Government's fiscal distress and definitely put an end to corruption and the plagues of Wall Street and corporate America.

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 6:58 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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Make popcorn. I've got a sleeping boy and lots of time

Moringa garlic bread is wonderful - right out of the oven it's sheer heaven!!! I think eaten regularly it would solve the PR financial crisis, assist in relieving the VI Government's fiscal distress and definitely put an end to corruption and the plagues of Wall Street and corporate America.

Agreed and only $20/loaf

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 7:14 pm
(@islandjoan)
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Maybe typing OT will make that emoji appear!

😀

Where's the emoji for "stick it?"

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 7:25 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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Welcome coat tails

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 7:42 pm
(@islandjoan)
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That's me!!

("44 that's me", who has seen that commercial for Geico? Love it!)

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 7:50 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
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That's me!!

("44 that's me", who has seen that commercial for Geico? Love it!)

It is a great commercial CT 😉

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 7:55 pm
(@gators_mom)
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Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
http://time.com/4060575/alphabet-google-dont-be-evil/
https://www.quora.com/Is-Google-an-evil-company
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2015/04/20/why-google-is-new-evil-empire.html

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywHp0mFUSg

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??

Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.

"Methinks thou dost protest too much"

Didn't Google just cut off the pay day loan business from its searches?

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 8:55 pm
(@Spartygrad95)
Posts: 1885
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Why is Google considered the most evil?

If you understand what Meta data is (basically: data about data) and how powerful it is, then you look into what "google" is, now it's actually a collection of DOZENS of companies, all of which have access to your meta data (basically a psychological profile of "you" ) ; this alone is mildly is concerning.

But Google likes to share, with the government, with out a warrant..... all the time.

Google also "filters" it's search engine and has recently had a judgement against them for this type of censorship (at the request of companies they will not list certain results of searches, mostly this makes sense as it's pirated movies or what ever... but it's still censorship).

A couple of starter links:
http://time.com/4060575/alphabet-google-dont-be-evil/
https://www.quora.com/Is-Google-an-evil-company
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2015/04/20/why-google-is-new-evil-empire.html

This is a great summary for those with out the time to research:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywHp0mFUSg

Google isn't even google anymore.. it's "Alphabet" now (alphabet owns google & was formed in 2015)
www.abc.xyz ... yeah, check out THAT crazy collection of companies (robotics, genetics, ISP's, Military, R&D, Home automation, Venture capitalism, Google Life sciences, X-labs (huge on its own!) and of course.. the search engine & email...)

If power corrupts, and Absolute power corrupts absolutely... WTF is going on with "alpabet" ??

Oh, "Google" used to have a creepy motto : "Do no evil" in 2015 with the formation of Alphabet they dropped that motto...

But but Monsatan!
I agree with you. Big brother IS Google.
Yet a company with 15 billion in revenue (barely more than Whole Foods) is the most evil.

"Methinks thou dost protest too much"

Didn't Google just cut off the pay day loan business from its searches?

They also changed algorithms so when people searched for things like "vaccines" pseudoscience crap was pushed down the list

 
Posted : May 23, 2016 8:58 pm
(@caribstx)
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Okay...so I get it on Google being the most evil.

I use Tor a lot...does anyone else use Tor here?

 
Posted : May 24, 2016 11:40 am
(@the-oldtart)
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Not me but the homemade bread is out of this world.

 
Posted : May 24, 2016 11:42 am
(@speee1dy)
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that is funny

Maybe typing OT will make that emoji appear!

😀

Where's the emoji for "stick it?"

 
Posted : May 24, 2016 1:27 pm
(@LiquidFluoride)
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They also changed algorithms so when people searched for things like "vaccines" pseudoscience crap was pushed down the list

Because the ministry of truth knows best, they know what you should see and hear.

I'd rather have people see the pseudoscience crap and then get SLAMMED when trying to make an inane argument; at least then they would be encouraged to fix their ignorance correctly.. the way it is currently is just bad... 1984 bad.

 
Posted : May 24, 2016 8:43 pm
(@STTsailor)
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I can't find any info on USVI budget spending or revenue broken down by category. Is this a secret?

I presume that USVI does not contribute to US military budget from tax base generated by residents. That means 25% savings.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 11:11 am
(@ms411)
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Yes, spending is a secret. Even though we are not spending on military, we are still spending more than we take in from taxes. VI has huge debt also.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 11:26 am
(@alana33)
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While our debt is not as massive as Puerto Rico's, last I d heard it was above
$1.2 BILLION and climbing daily. There is no new industry in the VI so in order
to fuel the VI Government's wasteful and often frivolous spending, they shall continue to raise fees and taxes while continuing to spend without check.
While I think the recent spate of pay raises are overdue for the average government workers, I don't see it as sustainable and will push us even further into debt.

I can see why the federal government would wish to include the territories in their attempts to curb our growing insolvency and Puerto Rico's overwhelming debt.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 12:21 pm
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You must not have seen the commercials against the PR "bailout". The group sponsoring the commercial mentions high debt for California, Illinois, and one other state. The VI is in good company.:-)

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 12:29 pm
(@LiquidFluoride)
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While our debt is not as massive as Puerto Rico's, last I d heard it was above
$1.2 BILLION and climbing daily. .

2.4 billion according to this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-03-04/it-is-not-all-fiscal-paradise-for-u-s-virgin-islands

not quite as bad as the 70 billion of PR... but per capita wise........ we aren't that far off.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 12:31 pm
(@alana33)
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Thanks LF.
I knew it was higher but wasn't sure of exact amount.
Considering we have a population of 100,000 people, (more or less)
it's a staggering sum.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 1:06 pm
(@gators_mom)
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Per capita debt estimates

Puerto Rico $19,023

USA $58,255

USVI $22,857

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 1:35 pm
(@STTsailor)
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Why is spending budget kept secret?

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 2:24 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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Why is spending budget kept secret?

It's not.
http://www.usvipfa.com/PDF/Executive%20Budget%20Book%202016.pdf

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 2:55 pm
(@ms411)
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If spending isn't a secret, please provide link so we can see it. Thank you.

 
Posted : May 25, 2016 3:01 pm
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