Good Job U.S. Customs and Border Protection!

Hey Stiphy,
:@):@):@):@):@):@):@):@):@) You're a Hoot!

Stiphy's views sound familiar, so if you have some (a lot) of spare time, you might want to read up on Objectivism to understand where he is coming from. Through the eyes of a youngster it makes a great deal of sense, as it did for me when I became briefly enamored of Ayn Rand (or more precisely of a Scandinavian cutie who introduced me to her---whew, dodged a bullet there---but that's another story). But maturity hopefully brings about an awareness of and respect for the complexities of community and morality, and hopefully of one's place among them.

Two Facts:

1. The war on drugs is a complete joke. Those who've yet to realize this fact are fossils stuck in the 80's. It's an unwinnable war. Worse, it's a shameful one where we criminalize the innocent in our quest to "get the bad guy". That guy on the cruise ship was a teddy bear. And, yet, some people in this very thread gleefully make fun of his upcoming prison sentence as if he were some thug. For shame.

2. Lizard often goes below the belt on these forums. Pay her no mind.

Peace out.

NugBlazer,
My Opinion goes below the belt on these forums. "Pay her no mind"? That's your opinion as well as the other trash you spout!:D

Yeah I feel safer too :S

What a waste of time and money.

Sean

You may feel it's a waste and time and money to fight drug criminals but they are usually some of the most dangerous criminals out there. The amount of intel and the incredible violent things they do are disgusting. So these guys do risk their lives and to make petty and belittling comments are insulting. Again they have to catch the big guys and the little guys, ie all the guys that are breaking the law.

We understand you don't like it, so fight. We are a country that started a revolution over taxes, freedom of religion, etc and now we just whine about things we don't like.

I don't think I was insulting any LEO with that statement. As you said the LEO's didn't get to chose to go on that mission, they are just doing their job. Conversely one could suggest that the mission itself, which LEO's don't have control over, is insulting to what many LEO's really signed up to do.

I do fight it as much as I can. I guess you can call me a whiner, you won't hurt my feelings, but with the exception of my passing reactionary comment that you quoted above, I think I generally have a pretty well informed and logically sound position that one can either agree or disagree with. I can tell you this, 15 years ago people used to look at those of us who advocated drug re-legalization like we were crazy. Nowadays most are at least willing to engage in the discussion and more and more are coming around to the idea that a reasonable drug policy that abandons prohibition is the more humane, ethical, peaceful and, practical approach. This is starting to manifest itself in law, starting with the increased legalization of marijuana (often under the guise of medical use). So those of us who have voted for anti-prohibition candidates, explained our position when the topic of the drug war came up etc. are having an effect, even if individually it's only a very slight one.

Sean

Stiphy's views sound familiar, so if you have some (a lot) of spare time, you might want to read up on Objectivism to understand where he is coming from. Through the eyes of a youngster it makes a great deal of sense, as it did for me when I became briefly enamored of Ayn Rand (or more precisely of a Scandinavian cutie who introduced me to her---whew, dodged a bullet there---but that's another story). But maturity hopefully brings about an awareness of and respect for the complexities of community and morality, and hopefully of one's place among them.

Well I guess age depends on persepctive, I wish I was still a youngster but the two kids are making me old fast 🙂

You are correct that I am well read on Objectivism as well as other philosophies. Much of Objectivism is appealing to me, but I also think that philosophy can't be followed without regard for practicality (too old to be that absolute I guess). Ending the prohibition of drugs is one of those cases where one can make not only a compelling philosophical argument, but also make a very good practical argument as well. I probably don't make the argument as well as some, but I try. I think this is why more and more people are changing their minds when it comes to the war on drugs.

Sean

I won't defend the guy who got arrested. He knew what the law was, he knew he was breaking the law, he knew the risks, and (at least now) he knows what the penalty is. No matter what you or I think about it, he made that choice and is responsible for his actions.

The problem I have is with the laws. No, the drugs have nothing to do with the violence. The MONEY is what causes the violence. As soon as you all realize this, you will see, objectively, what the "war on drugs" is - it is about money, on both ends - and the people in the middle - you and I, no matter your stance - are getting the s**t end of the stick.

This is pertinent:

why prohibition does not work

Yeah there is "too much money in it" - specifically money for your friends, Hillary.

This is what money does to even those we consider to be the most fine, upstanding citizens of this great country:

Read it

And this is what will happen to you even if you are something like what Lizard claims to be, a law abiding citizen:

I've been on the fence for years about the legalization of drugs ... and now I'm a victim of this crazy war on drugs

Hey NoOne.
So you can preach for your Zombie like existence to the current legislatures.

Haha I like this:

Very bright individuals (with IQs above 125) are roughly three-tenths of a standard deviation more likely to consume psychoactive drugs than very dull individuals,says Psychology Today. They ran the same study in the U.S. and found similar results.

Sometimes you gotta get the little fishes to get the bigger ones.

Great job CBP and ICE!

WOW
noOne today you posted from 04:11AM till 05:32AM. I suggest you stop with whatever drugs you are on and get some sleep:D

WOW
noOne today you posted from 04:11AM till 05:32AM. I suggest you stop with whatever drugs you are on and get some sleep:D

You are so weak. I haven't touched any drugs (other than alcohol) in months. It would be nice if you would even try to be intelligent.

noOne.
YAWN z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z z

I haven't touched any drugs (other than alcohol) in months.

Alcohol is far more dangerous and toxic than a lot of shit you could be taking. I know we forget about that down here in duty-free land of $2.99 bottles of rum, but 'tis true.

At least you recognize that alcohol is, in fact, a drug. Many don't simply because of it's "legal" status. Damn those lobbyists.
IT

$51,000 in cash was found amongst a stock of illegal drugs, and yet some of you insist the suspect was just a harmless innocent caught up in the war on drugs. What a load of BS.

Good bust by the U.S. CBP - keep up the good work.

Scott, really?

IT

I had to bring this thread back, because of this:

Here is a 74' true submarine with a composite Kevlar and carbon fiber shell for the hull, an electro-optical periscope with an infrared camera mounted on the conning tower, using a GPS chart plotter with side-scan capabilities and a high-frequency radio, twin propellers powered by 249 lead acid batteries and two diesel engines, compressed air for surfacing, with a maximum operational range of 6,800 nautical miles on the surface and can go 10 days without refueling:

It even has a real crapper:

Authorities in Awe of Drug Runners' Jungle-Built, Kevlar-Coated Supersubs

I particularly like the first comment after the article, by Anonymous:

Considering that the Drug War has been an unmitigated policy disaster in every country tarred by its brush (Hello Mexico, Columbia, Afghanistan, et al.!), I am now officially rooting for the bloodthirsty, murderous cartels. One has to wonder if they have even begun to rival mandatory sentencing guidelines for the number of lives disastrously ruined. I realize that it will be difficult for America to support its secret wars and foreign political agendas without the vast supply of illicit funds the drug trade creates, but isn’t it time we start to think that maybe treating our own citizens as the enemy is the wrong approach? Perhaps we should consider the more enlightened approach of the Netherlands and Portugal of treating addiction as a public health matter rather than a criminal offense. It will be a shame to stifle the ingenuity of these genuine, free-market entrepreneurs, but perhaps they can be encouraged into routing that creative energy to more productive avenues, like stabilizing the crippled administrations of their native lands, ravaged by the effects of fighting against the natural laws of economics and unsustainable, amoral, political policy.

I would really like to see the Customs and Border Protection start zeroing in on the illegal weapons that come to the VI. We know they don't come thru USPS, UPS or FEDX.

They come in by boat. So, come on Customs, start checking boats for weapons and ammo and cut down the homicides in the VI.

Do you really think they are not checking boats for weapons? Besides customs & border protection check the boats that they know are coming in or have a tip off. Coast guard polices the water and well it would be nice if the vi govt hadn't run off the ATF. It's really not fair to blame federal law enforcement if you don't know what they do or what ther ARE doing.

I would really like to see the Customs and Border Protection start zeroing in on the illegal weapons that come to the VI. We know they don't come thru USPS, UPS or FEDX.

They come in by boat. So, come on Customs, start checking boats for weapons and ammo and cut down the homicides in the VI.

I'm not to sure that weapons and drugs don't come through the USPS, see:

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/04/08/puerto-rico-smugglers-use-mail-ship-cocaine/

As far I know, the VI only has one postal inspector for the whole territory of the VI, and I'll bet that he is on St. Thomas.