email from the Pres

i got one...

No, my computer screens out JUNK mail.
You notice how he talks about extended coverage for younger adults. What he doesn't say is that they are cutting coverage for older adults, especially ones with health problems.

Isn't it strange that as good as this program is supposed to be, the congress isn't going to be on it. They know a loser when they see one, even though they will probably vote it in for us.

Nothing bad to say, just that Mine too must have been block by my SPAM blocker!

I strongly urge all Americans to read this health care proposal for themselves.
If this passes kiss all of our seniors goodbye. Very sad.

Soylent Green anyone?

I haven't seen the movie but I read the reviews. Scary stuff.

If they pass this health care reform, we are all screwed. In Canada, the wait for a doctors visit is several months long. I know that it is also here in the united states also, but the wait is usually for a specialist. I guess the doctors, nurses,etc... will all be paid by the government. I think with in the first year we will lose alot of good doctors. I do not have any health care coverage, and still do not want this to pass, it will be disastrous for the elderly.

Just because Fox News says it's so doesn't mean it is. I have 2 children in their 20's with no health insurance, scares me to death. I'm older and like most people my age I already have health insurance, it's not going to change. I don't need the public plan, but for those who do this bill quite literally could save their life.

Right now if someone is seriously injured they will be taken care of. They will get treatment at the hospital. Now if you have no insurance and get cancer, major heart problems, any fatal chronic disease, you will most likely have to pay for it yourself, which in most cases means no treatment. I don't understand why people don't read the bill and know that the same thing will be happening under Obama's health care plan Especially for the elderly. It is already this way in countries with socialized medicine.

I agree we need healthcare reform, but going to socialized medicine is going to be a disaster in the long run. You are not going to get the same kind of care. I don't think this is the kind of thing the govt should be in charge of at all.

Over the next month there is going to be an avalanche of misinformation and scare tactics from those seeking to perpetuate the status quo

I think we all understand what's in it for the status quo proponents (drug and insurance companies). I can't figure out what's in it for the health care reform proponents except health care reform.

I am looking forward to being able to afford health insurance again.

I don't think its much in the way of scare tactics. It will hurt the baby boomers and elderly not help them much. The gloss is getting stripped from Obama. He bill is way too out there, I mean he can't be serious about getting it passed when he tries to include the govt paying for abortions. There's no way that's going to get passed. If he was serious about wanting to get it passed there are many things in there he should have changed.

I would like to see a debate about what people mean by health care. What shoud "insurance" cover? Should it pay for doctor's visits? ER visits? Long term care if you are unable to care for yourself? Ventilator care and/or feeding tubes in people with advanced dementia? Extended hospital care when families don't feel like taking care of their "loved one" home? In vitro fertilization? Face lifts? Unproven treatments because the consumer wishes to have them? We have a LOT of medical technology and treatments but we cannot afford ALL of them for everyone. Instead of bashing or proclaiming a dire emergency, can we discuss? *-)

I work for a health insurance co. and i tell you the rates are going up and up.......if you can afford it get it. if no pre existing conditions. and those too they are cracking down on (insurance carriers) . It will get so high that even the weathly will be hard pressed to carry insurance on themselves. Something has to be done.
And alot of times the companies will not pay off medical bills. Makes me angry and i see the inside of it.

2 bills are supposed to come out of committees within the next week. On the PBS news it was said that the proposed legislation will be summarized and posted on the web.

If anyone comes across these please post a link.

Also any "contact officials" links would be good so we can express our opinion to those with the power.

I sure could use some reform, the cost of health insurance for the 2 of us is over $1200 per month.

ahhhhhhh Socialism.........soon come Acorn as his community police....armed & funded like the military

Maybe if the big pharms weren't so tied into healthcare/insurance now, there would be coverage for preventative care. That - and pharms selling meds that will cure a disease rather than keep it at bay. You can't believe that with technology and all the research they don't already have some stashed back somewhere. They wouldn't make money if they actually cured a disease. They only make money if they market drugs that will keep a disease at bay while you take the drugs.

Open any magazine and consider how much money goes into the ads they have in those. And we hear that the cost of drugs is high because of the research and approval process. While that is partially true, they spend alot of money on ads for drugs that keep us ill.

I have strong opinion's on socialized medicine...but will simply say that if Obama's policy goes through at least our hospital's in the VI won't look comparatively worse than those in the states anymore 🙂

And to stay OT I got the email as well.

Sean

http://www.americanbenefitscouncil.org/documents/hcr_housebill_summary071409.pdf

This is the July 14th House version. The blue Dogs made some changes yon Wednesday

What I have read is that they will look at the cost to treat vs the life expectancy of that person. If it does not meet a certain number they will with hold medical care. I have also read that when you turn 65, and every five years there after or when you have a bad illness or accident, you will be advised on how to with hold meds and nourishment to end you own life. I HOPE WHAT I HAVE READ IS WRONG!! There is a lot of misinformation from BOTHSIDES going on.
Anyone who believes that the government can do a good job should remember when the government had to take over the Chicken Ranch in Nevada, I think due to tax reasons. they could not make a profit and had to close it. If you can't run a LEGAL whorehouse, how can we expect them to run anything?

If they pass this health care reform, we are all screwed. In Canada, the wait for a doctors visit is several months long. I know that it is also here in the united states also, but the wait is usually for a specialist. I guess the doctors, nurses,etc... will all be paid by the government. I think with in the first year we will lose alot of good doctors. I do not have any health care coverage, and still do not want this to pass, it will be disastrous for the elderly.

How long have you lived in Canada? Me and anyone else I know can see our family doctors usually same day when in Canada. Specialists as you say can be a while but if its something like cancer you are usually not waiting long. Xrays, lab work, etc are same day or less than a week from a doctors appt. Never a cent ever changes hands.

Regarding the salary comment; I have relatives that are nurses which don't make nearly what doctors do, and they live very comfortable life styles.

There are problems with the health care system but it is quite good overall. I know Canadians who won't travel to the USA just because of being scared of the medical system/care there alone. Pros and cons on both sides.

I have friends from Canada who are also on both sides. Some say it is wonderful and others come here for care even though they have to pay for it.
I think it depends on what is wrong with you.

Seems to me I recall one of the cabinet ministers wife came to the US looking for treatment.

"Me and anyone else I know can see our family doctors usually same day when in Canada. Specialists as you say can be a while but if its something like cancer you are usually not waiting long. Xrays, lab work, etc are same day or less than a week from a doctors appt. "

And in England you can see your doctor the same day also. Not sure if I want wait a while for a specialist.

Question? After you see your doctor or your specialist, can you go out on your own and get a second opinion?

Also, are you able to go see a private physician if you have the ability to pay, cash or otherwise?

AFAIK it is illegal to pay for healthcare, it goes against the principle that everyone should have the same opportunity. Hence if you are rich and live in the US or Canada you will go to private clinics in Mexico or India anyways 🙂

Hell, they have something called the Department of Education. Anybody check the state of education lately. And in the state of CA they run the DMV and not doing a great job at that. Ever hear of the US Postal System that quasi government entity.

Now think about whether you want the government to dispense that which will keep you alive.