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(@pd0618)
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I seem to be getting conflicting information for just how bad the crime rate is in the USVI. I get some indication from this website that the crimes being committed are between persons who know each other and usually involved in the illegal drug trade. Other websites elude that murders happen often, with other non violent crimes being abundant. Could any locals shed some light?

(side note) I am aware safety can be in the eye of the beholder, I am just looking for a first hand account of the validity of these reports.

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 12:30 pm
(@alana33)
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Murders happen often mainly between rival gang members that shoot each other. This has been covered as nauseam on this forum. There are other less serious crimes as there is everywhere in the world. Using common sense about being in certain areas, after dark in an inebriated or drugged condition goes a long way. In the last 35 years of living here, I've not been burglarized, robbed, nor harmed in any way.

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 12:49 pm
(@pd0618)
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Thanks Alana, I kind of assumed it was something like that. Just reading some of the articles made it sound like the worst place to live.

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 12:54 pm
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yes, most murders are gang related. but there ( IMO ) seem to be a high number of other crimes. robbery and the like

 
Posted : July 26, 2016 6:51 pm
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and there was a shoot out at a school yesterday where over 400 students were attending day camp. luckily the students were not hurt

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 10:54 am
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I'm never bothered by crime. Most violent crime here is perpetrated by a certain segment of society that seems intent on killing off their race. Don't be concerned, it won't affect you.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 11:00 am
(@pd0618)
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Canuck what island do you live on, and what area?

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 12:44 pm
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i imagine those 400 students can say that

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 1:01 pm
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Canuck what island do you live on, and what area?

St. Croix

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 2:50 pm
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i imagine those 400 students can say that

They see it everyday.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 2:52 pm
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thats pretty cynical. i do not believe they see it everyday

i imagine those 400 students can say that

They see it everyday.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 6:27 pm
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I was sitting at home a few years ago watching TV, my wife was asleep. It was 1:30 am. Three armed men in masks broke in. Before they found and pulled my wife out of bed she was able to call 911.

We are not gang members. We do not deal drugs. They said that we were going to fund their Merry Christmas this year. They held us at gunpoint for 2 hours. Meanwhile the Police had arrived, many of them. They waited outside listening on my wife's cellphone which had been left active even though one of the thieves had put it into his stash bag.

When they went outside the Police identified themselves and told the criminals to drop their guns. The criminals instead opened fire on the Police.

The Police shot and killed two of the thieves and wounded the third. One police officer was wounded.

Since moving here, I have known 4 people who have been murdered and the crimes not solved.

Peaceful St Croix. The crime is just as bad on St Thomas, look up the statistics.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 7:44 pm
(@pd0618)
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Rotor I am so sorry that happened to you and your family, that must have been awful.

I have looked up many statistics, however I kept getting conflicting information that is why I posted on here.

I was sitting at home a few years ago watching TV, my wife was asleep. It was 1:30 am. Three armed men in masks broke in. Before they found and pulled my wife out of bed she was able to call 911.

We are not gang members. We do not deal drugs. They said that we were going to fund their Merry Christmas this year. They held us at gunpoint for 2 hours. Meanwhile the Police had arrived, many of them. They waited outside listening on my wife's cellphone which had been left active even though one of the thieves had put it into his stash bag.

When they went outside the Police identified themselves and told the criminals to drop their guns. The criminals instead opened fire on the Police.

The Police shot and killed two of the thieves and wounded the third. One police officer was wounded.

Since moving here, I have known 4 people who have been murdered and the crimes not solved.

Peaceful St Croix. The crime is just as bad on St Thomas, look up the statistics.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 8:29 pm
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You'll get conflicting information no matter where you look for info. Everybody has different experiences so they speak from those.

Nobody is holed up behind a walled fortress afraid to venture out. Though the gun violence may have increased, and the violence is usually gang related, it seems as though other crimes seem to be down for now.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 9:50 pm
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I think so far this year STT is ahead of STX in the murder department. If I'm mistaken please correct me. It's true that it rarely effects most that aren't involved. Still a shame that it continues.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 10:53 pm
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Drug use is rampant as is prostitution, but if statistics were checked I would guess that it wouldn't be any worse than most mid-sized towns of comparable size. What makes it seem worse than it probably is, is that with it being Islands with the population being condensed as it is, it makes it appear that there may be more crime. I will say this, it depends on where you choose to live and where you choose to go and the times you choose to go there. Like Back street, there is prostitution and drugs going on there most of the time. I used to venture down that area during the day time hours back in the early to mid-70's. But now a days, I would stay away from that area all together. The same could be said for other sections on the Islands. I would make sure that if you go out at night, especially in the TuTu area, down town area, go with a group or at least not alone. It's just being smart and being observant of your surroundings. I have been the victim of one home burglary, which was a group of boys led by a relative while living on the Northside of St. Thomas, while living in Carrot Bay, my car was broken into twice and my car tires stolen twice.

Now my parents who lived in TuTu had three separate burglaries within a 3 year period and safe was stolen along with thousands of dollars in gold and silver. My step dad ordered two Doberman Pintcher dogs and while in the process of training them to attack and protect the property, the third burglary happened and not only did they steal the safe again, they took the two dogs as well. They later found the dogs roaming around miles from the house. I still get a laugh out of that every time I think about it. But fortunately, none of my family or my wife's family who also live on St. Thomas has been involved in any injuries or hurt in any way.

mike

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 11:03 pm
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It is probably better to have nothing of value at home. The most I can lose would be a TV or DVD player or IPad. No cash, no gold at home. Easy to replace.

 
Posted : July 27, 2016 11:30 pm
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It is probably better to have nothing of value at home. The most I can lose would be a TV or DVD player or IPad. No cash, no gold at home. Easy to replace.

One falls into that same frame of mind after going through a major hurricane and losing everything.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 12:19 am
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I was sitting at home a few years ago watching TV, my wife was asleep. It was 1:30 am. Three armed men in masks broke in. Before they found and pulled my wife out of bed she was able to call 911.

We are not gang members. We do not deal drugs. They said that we were going to fund their Merry Christmas this year. They held us at gunpoint for 2 hours. Meanwhile the Police had arrived, many of them. They waited outside listening on my wife's cellphone which had been left active even though one of the thieves had put it into his stash bag.

When they went outside the Police identified themselves and told the criminals to drop their guns. The criminals instead opened fire on the Police.

The Police shot and killed two of the thieves and wounded the third. One police officer was wounded.

Since moving here, I have known 4 people who have been murdered and the crimes not solved.

Peaceful St Croix. The crime is just as bad on St Thomas, look up the statistics.

Thanks for your honesty. I myself have been robbed four times. The crime here is incredibly high.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 2:55 am
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Certainly everyone has their own experiences here. 41 years for me , one personal connection with criminal activity, home invasion, short lived and solved by police months later.
Lived and ran a business in Boston for 5 years before moving here - robbed at gunpoint 4 times.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 3:13 am
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Certainly everyone has their own experiences here. 41 years for me , one personal connection with criminal activity, home invasion, short lived and solved by police months later. Many friends and acquaintances killed or robbed however over that time.

Lived and ran a business in Boston for 5 years before moving here - robbed at gunpoint 4 times.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 3:16 am
(@SausageInTheCan)
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You'll get conflicting information no matter where you look for info. Everybody has different experiences so they speak from those.

Nobody is holed up behind a walled fortress afraid to venture out. Though the gun violence may have increased, and the violence is usually gang related, it seems as though other crimes seem to be down for now.

Tell that to Scotty who lives in little Beirut. He has 12 foot high fences with razor wire atop them. His dog has been murdered and they've tried to breach the fence at least twice to gain access.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 12:22 pm
(@pd0618)
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Thank you all for your personal accounts, and opinions. I am still researching and looking into as much as I can.

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 12:27 pm
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Where is little Beirut?

There are obviously areas that are much safer than others.
Just as an aside, many of you know I'm planning on relocating to FL but my decision has nothing to do with criminal activity in the VI.
As mentioned, I've not had any problems. (Luckily!)

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 12:37 pm
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You'll get conflicting information no matter where you look for info. Everybody has different experiences so they speak from those.

Nobody is holed up behind a walled fortress afraid to venture out. Though the gun violence may have increased, and the violence is usually gang related, it seems as though other crimes seem to be down for now.

Tell that to Scotty who lives in little Beirut. He has 12 foot high fences with razor wire atop them. His dog has been murdered and they've tried to breach the fence at least twice to gain access.

where the hell is that? & who did they piss off?

I agree with Ms411, even robberies have been "fewer" this year (not that any are good).

 
Posted : July 28, 2016 1:45 pm
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