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(@alana33)
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So just comment and stop the sniping.
Jeeze Louise!

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 5:12 pm
(@alana33)
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I agree, It's not up to me, or you, to decide who should or should not comment.

So just comment and stop the sniping.
Jeeze Louise!

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 5:14 pm
(@alana33)
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Give it a rest.
I am sure this is boring everyone and counterproductive for us all.

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 5:23 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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All I was trying to say is voting speaks louder than words. A resident can type 10,000,000,000,000,000 clever words and not make close to impact of one solitarty vote. That's my opinion, I know it's not popular....

As much as I hate to get caught up in your incessantly pedantic personal outrage with my legal immigration status and my temerity in being involved in local politics but not seeking eligibility to vote in state or Federal elections, your comment cannot go unremarked upon because your opinion is not "not popular" but simply without merit. Unless, of course, you really do believe that one solitary vote which is based on total ignorance of any facts but given for reasons such as a candidate's pretty face or a job promise or an extra piece of fish, has less impact on a voting bloc than opinions which can sway many. Without words being expressed and opinions given there can be no substantive vote. You have it bass ackwards.

Maybe you could stick to the subject at hand instead of falling all over yourself digging at me personally which only debases the tone of the forum and is very unsavory at best.

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 5:40 pm
(@alana33)
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In my opinion, 1 solitary vote does not make much difference when the same people run and continue to be elected over and over when they lack the intelligence, moral fiber and ethics to even be considered for the positions that they continue to hold. It's who you know and what you can promise them in terms of kick backs, contracts, etc. Come on, you should know the score if you have been here any length
of time. Now if they would only round up all those roaming chickens and roosters for the chicken fry..................................

I know many people that have lived and continue to live here in the VI and that are not registered to vote but are US citizens.
Personally, I think this forum is great and sniping at others on it for whatever reason bores people and serves no constructive purpose.
Let's all give the all sniping a rest and move on.
Peace.

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 6:19 pm
(@blu4u)
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Al, I happen to agree with you (in part) if all those folks with opinions stopped moving thier lips and typing fingers, and started stepping feet towards the voting boooth, we might see some positive change.

The root source of my resentment (and snipping) stems from the commonly held belief that VI political officials are voted into office by a bunch of "ill informed" nincompoops who are only interested in fish-frys and kick-backs. By no means do I think that VI goverment is well oiled machine. But insulting the citizen electorate is not the way to fix it. Many folks in the territory struggle each day to put food on the table and fish-frys are an effective method of reaching out and building community support. Spending $$ campainging is not unique to the VI.

The stucture of our democratic govement provides an outlet for every common man (and woman) to participate through voting. Our government realizes the key contributions of imigrants and provides a path to citizenship for those who are motivated to become part of the election process. If you, I, or OldTart want to see change, then we need to 'walk the talk' and show up at the polls.

In a way I'm gald you called me out. Take care.

For the record, I'd rather vote for one of the aforemetioned free-range chickens then cast a ballot for chuck-eeek. I've never attended a fish fry. Polictics alone (with out the wholesale cooking) is enough to make my insides turn.

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 6:54 pm
(@the-oldtart)
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You do your thing and everybody else will do theirs. I've been at many a voting booth entrance in the past and many a campaign event - and many public meetings and many protests - and although I'm not eligible to vote myself I've persuaded many of those longtime residents Alana talked about to get up off their duffs, register to vote and become sufficiently informed to make a wise choice. I wonder how many people you've persuaded likewise. If that strikes you as some form of hypocrisy then so be it but I've done way more than sit on my arse moving lips and typing (gosh, what awful things to do!). Back off, and don't insult me further from your little perch by telling me what I should be doing. Take care of your own business and save the hackneyed platitudes about "common held beliefs" and "poor folk struggling to put food on the table" (because I'm one of them right now). As MY now 96 year old mother used to say, "put that in your pipe and smoke it"!

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 7:19 pm
(@wenchtoo)
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You do your thing and everybody else will do theirs. I've been at many a voting booth entrance in the past and many a campaign event - and many public meetings and many protests - and although I'm not eligible to vote myself I've persuaded many of those longtime residents Alana talked about to get up off their duffs, register to vote and become sufficiently informed to make a wise choice. I wonder how many people you've persuaded likewise. If that strikes you as some form of hypocrisy then so be it but I've done way more than sit on my arse moving lips and typing (gosh, what awful things to do!). Back off, and don't insult me further from your little perch by telling me what I should be doing. Take care of your own business and save the hackneyed platitudes about "common held beliefs" and "poor folk struggling to put food on the table" (because I'm one of them right now). As MY now 96 year old mother used to say, "put that in your pipe and smoke it"!

(tu)(tu)(tu)

 
Posted : June 24, 2012 10:37 pm
(@sallyf)
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I think blu has a bit of a hard-on for the Old Tart - you know like the little boy who shoves his kindergarten crush in the playground!!!

 
Posted : June 25, 2012 2:55 am
(@DaChief)
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Though I mean no malicious intent, I will state that I have often witnessed "permanent visitors" to our shores who are vociferous in their perceived passion. But truly, what is their buy in?

When one buys the store; they buy the whole store. What you bring forth; is what you wrought. To believe in a system, rightfully you should be a part of that system.

One such "permanent visitor" resides on STX and is rather infamous in their vociferous stand with regard to current issues. They push a particular brand of pseudo continentalist "redemption" for our present ills. This individual has been pervasive in their stance and has often manipulated our system without even being a citizen. Most of the people I know don't like this....

Though I am not a protectionist nor am I an ardent nationalist; I am patriotic and do support our country and to a lesser extent, our government.That does NOT mean that I agree with their policies or decisions.

No, if you want to help America, your fellow citizens and other "permanent visitors" then please do become an American Citizen.

 
Posted : June 25, 2012 5:12 am
(@IslandHops)
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I think both O.T. and Blu have made their points, yet I agree with D.C.'s comments. To paraphrase the message... Stop manipulating, and start participating (not that you haven't been doing so in your own way O.T. but this is about voting).
One of the first things I did upon arriving here was to find out what I needed to do to register to vote. I may be only one voice, but I like to think my vote counts. 😎

I'm often surprised to find out some of the transplants from up north don't register here so they can continue to vote for president in their former state. I think a single vote here means more to us as a community than an absentee ballot for president.

In these trying times for our territory we are facing one of the most critical elections held. Now is the time for change so please register and make your voice heard at the polls.

 
Posted : June 25, 2012 3:07 pm
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