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Linda from Michigan
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Had a local in La Valle tell me 2 days ago the DEA heli was flying over his house and was so low the prop wash knocked over his big clay potted flowers and broke his window. When he called the FAA he was told that when the DEA does there thing - they have been told to stay out of it.

Just what I was told by an older long time resident.

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 2:02 am
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Had a local in La Valle tell me 2 days ago the DEA heli was flying over his house and was so low the prop wash knocked over his big clay potted flowers and broke his window. When he called the FAA he was told that when the DEA does there thing - they have been told to stay out of it.

Just what I was told by an older long time resident.

If their rotor wash did damage then they are responsible for the damage. Who did he call? If he called the control tower at the airport on St Croix then he did not call the FAA. Our tower is a contract tower run by a private company. He would have to call San Juan or Miami to talk to the FAA.

The problem that he will have is proving his case. You would be surprised how many people make up stories about the DEA helicopters because they don't like them. A lot would depend on his credibility. But according to FAA regulations they are responsible for damage done by their rotor wash.

The DEA is required to follow FAA regulations when they fly. They might have Letters of Agreement between government agencies which allow some deviation but I have never heard of being exempted from doing damage. For instance the Coast Guard has a Letter of Agreement with the FAA which allows their airplanes to descend below 500 feet when they are on a SAR mission but only when they are under orders on an active SAR mission.

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 2:36 am
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A few cop cars, a customs car and a military Humvee full of plants were leaving the Red Hook area this afternoon.

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 2:47 am
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Wonder where they were going :@)

Pamela

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 7:32 am
 piaa
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They were flying over Coral Bay (St John) earlier today.

Pia

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 9:37 pm
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and the only effect of all that (wasted) effort is to make the dealers and gangs richer and get inoccents killed in turf wars - I have never lived anywhere were grass wasn't readily available DEA activity notwithstanding (sigh)

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 10:17 pm
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Michael,
Your concerns should be more about "Pirates" not the DEA :-o! We all have our own cross to carry!*-)

 
Posted : December 4, 2009 10:58 pm
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Michael,
Your concerns should be more about "Pirates" not the DEA :-o! We all have our own cross to carry!*-)

spoken like a dirt dweller *-)
"OMG you do what? what about pirates and sharks and hurricanes and hordes of jimmy buffett imitators....."

personally I would love to sky-seed the entire rock with pot LOL! lets see them root out that

what an absolute waste or resourses....

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 1:12 am
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That absolute waste of resourses makes me smile:D Knowing it increases the value of "RUM" the true legal- golden bounty for STX 😛

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 1:34 am
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My dad's an alcoholic.
I've had family murdered by drunk drivers.
None by dope smokers.

You can go straight to hell !

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 1:58 am
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After you my friend after you:-o

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 2:02 am
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The DEA helicopter was flying so low over Country Day School because it landed there and all the children got to see inside the helicopter as well as inside some military vehicles. My son talked about it all night.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 10:24 am
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Rescue is a great use of tax dollars in regards to helicopters. But any intelligence gathering on citizens use isn't appropriate DEA or not. The least they could do is fog for mosquitoes while eradicating marijuana. At least they could justify their existence with some benefit to the people they serve. LOL;)

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 1:31 pm
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Both Michael and Syzygy,
How much time have you spent on the island, because you must have missed the Home Grown farmers selling their product to the kids at schools, Kids out of school, the tourist's on the street, So come out with your cute remarks and continue to support the "Citizen Doper sales force". It's amazing the expertise and position on what's appropriate and what's a waste of resources. Maybe when you both arrive on the island you can get a job selling grass.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 2:03 pm
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I'd like to add that so much of the crime on STX is drug related, maybe most. The drug gangs are the ones growing/selling Marajuana (sp) here. So anything that can be done right now to stop the flow of $$$ to these gangs is ok by me.

Legalization is a totally different discussion.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 3:07 pm
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Great idea, Syzygy!! Kill two birds with one stone, I like it!! (tu) And here's a good question: Why do we STILL have so many mosquitoes?? You'd think that one of the numerous hurricanes/tropical storms woulda blown 'em all away! Haha! (I know, I know, the eggs are laid in standing water, blah-blah, blah...but I LIKE the idea of them blowing away in the wind!! Heehee!)

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 6:56 pm
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And where dear lizard did anyone suggest pushing dope to kids?

Legalize and regulate just like the booze so dear to your heart. Then use the DEA resources to burn unregulated sales of grass just like they got Al Capone in a Federal Court not influenced by local influence. Legal booze is so cheap here - is there much moonshine cooked here?

Show me your cost / benefit analyses for all the good that comes from current law and perhaps you can show me the light.....

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 7:06 pm
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Michael, I like your thought processes....send me a PM.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 7:17 pm
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Michael,
Booze is not dear to my heart, But "Rum" is a vast economic engine to the economy of STX. This Island has been able to sustain an economy without tourist's due in part to the income stream generated by the production of "Legal Rum". You have been here as a tourist and apparently know nothing about the devastation, crime and corruption that Grass has done to the Islands. So leave your moronic attitude in Ohio. I feel good that when you come and had enough, you just have to pick up anchor and go.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 7:25 pm
Linda from Michigan
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Michael,
Booze is not dear to my heart, But "Rum" is a vast economic engine to the economy of STX. This Island has been able to sustain an economy without tourist's due in part to the income stream generated by the production of "Legal Rum". You have been here as a tourist and apparently know nothing about the devastation, crime and corruption that Grass has done to the Islands. So leave your moronic attitude in Ohio. I feel good that when you come and had enough, you just have to pick up anchor and go.

And just how much is it going to continue costing us to get through this volley of issues? What happens if this deal gets blocked? And although a separate company - what if something were to happen to the Cruzan brand and they aren't able to fulfill their contractual agreement with us to cover the bonds and all the incentives we've put out there?

It is a good industry for the Territory - but there is an alternative that doesn't require spending by the government and will rake in money to the Territory.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 8:35 pm
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I'll take the Rum Industry over your dope deal any day. As usual more smoke and mirrors. You make yourself look even more foolish with your what if comments.:X

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 8:42 pm
Linda from Michigan
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Looks like PR is unhappy just like you:P

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 9:17 pm
Linda from Michigan
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Unhappy? No - I'm about as blessed and happy as I can be. Life is good. Thank you.

Hope your holidays bring you joy!

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 9:28 pm
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You should read some of your stuff:@) Don't sound like a Happy camper.

 
Posted : December 5, 2009 9:45 pm
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