Cane Bay Beach Bar

rotor shame on you,lol leave my beach the hell alone

you know rotor i love it one day if you could take jj and myself on an island tour, i promise not to sue if we crash but it would be so cool to see the island from the air and i'm thinking the tammy would allow it for the kid

That could probably be arranged. I take kids up all the time. Old and young ones!

You know I have my favorite beach on the north west coast near the tide pools. No roads, only accessable by helicopter or boat.

Love the videos rotorhead,
Thanks

Rotorhead, Would like to meet you as well and would love a ride. We will be here until oct 7th

No Tammy would not allow it.

too bad,it really would be fun

Really trw, give my child to a man that I made very angry last year and to another man who is having a great time baiting me both of which are complete strangers to my child. My son is never out of my sight unless he is with a family member or at school and sometimes I stay at school and watch. He does not even go on field trips without me. I'm the only helicopter he needs.

FYI. I harbor no grudges Tammy, but I completely understand.

I never take kids up without either their parents or grandparents. Except for the one who calls me Uncle John, he has a special place in the Helo.

John

Thank you John.

Tami, somehow you just don't look like Master Hanley.

Ethan made it quite clear at a very early age that the left seat was his. He is 9 now.

Changing the road cannot happen without both a DPNR and CZM public hearing. I think I would have noticed the notice of that in the paper. You are required to run 3 ads in the paper announcing the hearings. I also don't know what the Feds have to do with the road as according to the road signs, it's a Territory road. Mr Mosler may want to move the road, but there's a lot of bureaucracy to go thru before anything like that can happen. I'm pretty sure Mr Mosler hasn't "bought" the change in the road from the government as something like that would be all over the papers. No one in the VI government can keep a secret.

Limetime, I don't think you understand. The land where the road is and beyond would be PRIVATE PROPERTY. The beach itself would not be larger and it would only be accessible via the boat ramp or the extreme east end of the beach. There would be no parking available. Think Davis Bay at Carambola.

But no worries -- I've been here 6 years and this idea has been tossed around from time to time.

This is prefectly stated -- I could not agree more.

Re-routing the road is a horrible idea. So what if there are a cars parked along the road? It's not like it causes a traffic jam or anything. The cars are there because the beach is a fun place to be. This island needs MORE people out having fun, not less. If you don't like crowds, there are TONS of other beaches all over the island that you can have all to yourself. I for one really enjoy the weekends in Cane Bay where people are out enjoying themselves. It really adds fun to the atmosphere.

But, like you said, for now it's just talk, and will probably remain that way. Still, it's unnerving that the idea is even being kicked around.

i'm still not sure if this is a bad thing linda, the fewer people we have here in cane bay is a good thjing,people just muck things up and i discourage people from coming up here all trhe time by saying it's anawful beach and to stay away

I know you mean well, but that is a really unfair, deceptive and selfish way to go about things. Remember that you were new here at one time, too. The whole "now that I'm here, let's raise the drawbridge and not let anyone else in" attitude is old and tired and out of touch.

And fewer people in Cane Bay is not a good thing. You may be forgetting that the entire island is hurting very badly regarding tourism, which, like it or not, is the #1 industry here (except Hess, possibly). The businesses on the North Shore need more people, not less.

More tourists = better economic times for all STX. Better economic times for STX = less poverty. Less poverty = LESS CRIME.

I like to refrain from passing judgement on a plan until I actually know what the plan is. There ARE traffic jams in Cane Bay all the time and there are people criss crossing the road in front of cars. The beach could be deeper and accomodate more people if the road wasn't there... palms could be planted where the road is now to make more use-able fun beach space... It could - just possibly... be a good thing! If the plan is to reroute the road and still have plenty (or even more) parking for people to use and enjoy the beach and restaurant without having to risk getting hit by a car, be subjected to the radios blasting in every car that strolls by and having to dodge cars in order to go get a beverage or a burger... then I'm all for it.

However, if the plan is to isolate the beach from the public and make it difficult for people to come and enjoy it... (which to me sounds like would be bad for the restaurant and the dive center and tourism in the area and therefore not something the owner of those establishments would choose to do...)... then I'm not liking it so much.

Its a great beach and we all want to enjoy it... safely. As we grow on this island, I think the current arrangement of many of our beaches could be improved. There are people who actually look for WIN WIN solutions that are smart and make good economic sense... and I think Mr. Mosler is one of them.

Point being... there are a bunch of nay sayers on this island that can't stand change even when the change would be for the better of all - property owner and beach user both.

Nugblazer , you and Linda J speak as if you know for sure that making it PRIVATE is the case... do you? What is your source? Have you seen the plans?

I say that we should all wait until we know what is actually planned before we cut off our noses and spite our faces.

Limetime,

The property on the other side of the road is private property. The proposal (at least the last one that was floated) was for the property owner to swap a right-of-way south of the dive shop for the present road. That would me the road would be rerouted to the south, behind the two little cottages and the dive shop. The property north of the proposed road all the way to the high tide line would belong to the property owner. That owner would have to provide access to the beach. I'm sure that would be at the two ends of the "by-pass"

I'm not wild about how busy Cane Bay is on the weekends, but it does have a vibe and it's certainly real.

Linda's points are solid.

Limetime, of course I haven't "seen the plans" myself. But, if you just think about it, all signs point to this being a bad idea for the common man and the beach becoming less accessible to the public, not more.

First off, consider the time involved. With the way our government works, the road would easily be torn up and in complete disarray for YEARS. Most likely, the road would be impassible for a long time requiring a very long and tedious drive to circumvent the construction area. Is that really what we want?

Secondly, ask yourself: what's in it for Mosler and the developers who are pushing this change? Do you really think they have our best interests in mind? I for one do not. History has shown time and time again that when deveolpers propose these kinds of changes, it is with their own self-interests in mind FIRST and FOREMOST. They are in it to make money, period. They try to sell it to us as "helping us make the island better" when really it's their own pockets they're concerned with. Golden is trying the same thing out at Great Pond. Same with the William and Punch plans. Divi Carina is another example. Remember all the promises the Divi deveoplers made prior to construction? Have any of those promises come true? Not really. Research has shown that most people that spend their money away at that casino are LOCALS, not tourists as the developers claimed would happen.

Thirdly, I think you are vastly overstating the so-called "issues" at Cane Bay. Traffic jams? Seriously? 6 cars waiting in a line for 30 seconds while somebody parks hardly constitutes a "traffic jam". People criss-crossing on front of cars? So what? That happens all the time all over the world. Is it really such a problem that it necessitates a gigantic, expensive construction project? Having to "dodge cars" to go get a burger? I've been on STX for ten years and have been to Cane Bay hundreds of times, and never had to "dodge cars" to get to the bar. If there's a car coming, I simply wait for it to pass, then stroll across the road in my barefeet. As for the "radios blasting" I agree it's annoying, but not THAT big of a deal. You hear if for 10 seconds, then it's gone. If it really bothered me, I'd simply go to one of the other 30 beaches that are far off of the road.

With all the major issues facing our island, is THIS something that we really want to invest our time, money and energy on? I don't think so. We've got much, MUCH bigger fish to fry.

Trw, if we went with your thinking we should all tell everyone that Paradise Cafe had lousy food and service. That way there would always be room for a good table to enjoy the good food and service.

oh cheese and bread people can't you tell yet after over a year of my post's when i'm pulling on legs,good lord,although it is fun whenever a drunk misses the curve by the drug tree and ends up in the gut,or goes off the road between off the wall and the waves

and terry it just wouldn't be true, my boss spoke with a fellow server about a customer complaint yesterday and when the other server had left i said has anyone ever complained about me and he told me nope,and well you know my boss he says whats on his mind so i believe him,as far as the food,i've received very few complaints during the time i've worked there other than the fact if might be alittle slow at times when the kitchen gets backed up,most of our customers eat there alot over the course of a week,we're talking daily to 2 or 3 times a week

I would hate to see that area paved over. There are times that it does get a bit congested, but that adds to the appeal of the place. A new road would make it like Davis Beach (Carambola). We would all lose. I hope it never happens.

I talked with one of the scuba instructors who works and lives there. I was told that the road would take out the scuba office and bathroom as it would run between the scuba shop and the building with the compressor. Apparently Moser wants to put in a small marina on the West end of that property.

oh please WHO lost out over davis beach (carambola) like 2 feet of that beach is any good,wah wah wah, and good for mosler if he can get a marina up here apparently he knows how to bribe the czm like williams and punch does not

and no it does not add to the appeal of the place,do you even live here?

Talked with Frank today. He said they will serve moderately priced items as he does not think a place serving higher end items can make it for a few years. He said they will have hamburgers from simple to fancy, fried chicken and other type items.