Blue Cross Blue Shield to Leave USVI Owing Local Health Providers Massive Sums

Do you qualify for Medicare? If yes, have you declined it? If no, will you decline it?

Yes, as of two months ago. Why would I decline it? I paid FICA (Federal Insurance Contributions Act) for 35+ years. Are they going to return my FICA plus interest if I decline coverage? In addition, I pay a monthly premium for part B, part D and my supplemental coverage. It is not free.

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Again, I ask, are you going to decline Medicare?

Again, I ask, are they going to refund my FICA with interest?

I was forced to participate in this program. A better question would be, should people be allowed to opt out of the whole government mandated health and retirement program. I would agree with that. In a free society people should be able to make their own arraignments for their retirement and health without government intervention. Our government should treat us like adults, not children to be taken care of.

Why would I want to pay into a system my entire adult life then opt out? Give me my money back and we can talk.

Again, are you going to opt out of Medicare? Also Social Security?

Social security has been part of the fabric of the US since 1935; Medicare has been around since 1965. Too late to protest I'm afraid.

Live up to your conservative values and be the first to just say no. (RIP Nancy Reagan).

Again, are you going to opt out of Medicare? Also Social Security?

Social security has been part of the fabric of the US since 1935; Medicare has been around since 1965. Too late to protest I'm afraid.

Live up to your conservative values and be the first to just say no. (RIP Nancy Reagan).

Again, are they going to refund my money plus interest? Yes, the programs have been around for a long time. I, like many others, was forced to participate in the program. It is not my fault that politicians are not honest and make promises that they can't keep.

How is it a conservative value to pay into a program for most of your life then walk away from the money that you have invested in the program? If I opt out of those programs will I get my money back? If not then why should I opt out?

Health care is not a right. People provide health care services as a profession. Do you think that those people should work for free? Or do you think that the government should take money from one citizen to pay for another citizens health care?

Health care is a product/service. Where in the constitution does it mention free health care or even affordable health care. This is a newly invented right. Invented by people who want something that they can't afford to pay for.

If you think that health care is a right then you should try suing the federal government because people can't buy individual health insurance in the USVI even if they are willing to pay for it. Health care is a product like any other.

I would like to see someone enumerate our rights. I am aware of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution but I don't remember any of these constitutional rights awarding us access to someone else's labor or property.

If you want to rely on a document written 230 years ago by racist, sexist men with a quill pen and no idea of the future go for it. If you want to get your rights from antiquated documents you can go back a decade or so before and read the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness from Declaration of Independence. Because someone isn't Fortunate enough to be a pawn in the for profit insurance scam should not preclude them from living.

Those racist sexist men did have the foresight to provide a mechanism to adjust their document.

Those racist sexist men did have the foresight to provide a mechanism to adjust their document.

In due time, it will be too.
Still that inalienable right of life that governments are formed to protect thing is kind of hard to get around..

If you want to rely on a document written 230 years ago by racist, sexist men with a quill pen and no idea of the future go for it. If you want to get your rights from antiquated documents you can go back a decade or so before and read the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness from Declaration of Independence. Because someone isn't Fortunate enough to be a pawn in the for profit insurance scam should not preclude them from living.

You seem to want to judge men of the past using the morality of today. 230 years ago where were these utopian places that treated everyone the way that you think that they should be treated. The answer is NOWHERE. The values that we have today have evolved over time.

I mention the US Constitution because it is the basis for all of our laws. The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. We derive none of our rights from the Declaration of Independence.

If you think that health care is a right then it is time for a Constitutional Convention. If enough of the people in the country agree then the Constitution can be amended and health care can be added as a right.

If you want to rely on a document written 230 years ago by racist, sexist men with a quill pen and no idea of the future go for it. If you want to get your rights from antiquated documents you can go back a decade or so before and read the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness from Declaration of Independence. Because someone isn't Fortunate enough to be a pawn in the for profit insurance scam should not preclude them from living.

You seem to want to judge men of the past using the morality of today. 230 years ago where were these utopian places that treated everyone the way that you think that they should be treated. The answer is NOWHERE. The values that we have today have evolved over time.

I mention the US Constitution because it is the basis for all of our laws. The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. We derive none of our rights from the Declaration of Independence.

If you think that health care is a right then it is time for a Constitutional Convention. If enough of the people in the country agree then the Constitution can be amended and health care can be added as a right.

We don't need a constitution for the rights mentioned in Delaration of Independence. They are bestowed on us by our Creator and the very being of our country was to protect those rights.

We don't need a constitution for the rights mentioned in Declaration of Independence. They are bestowed on us by our Creator and the very being of our country was to protect those rights.

Hahaha! You are funny! We are a country of laws. Our laws are governed by the rights defined in the Constitution. When was the last time that SCOTUS ruled on something based on the Declaration of Independence.

Our Creator?? The one who co-authored the famous Bible? Hahaha!

Listen, I'm not saying he's my creator or yours... I'm saying the very existence of this country was founded on our government protecting these three inalienable rights. When the laws that we are supposedly a nation of apply equally to all in this country I'll buy your argument.

Listen, I'm not saying he's my creator or yours... I'm saying the very existence of this country was founded on our government protecting these three inalienable rights. When the laws that we are supposedly a nation of apply equally to all in this country I'll buy your argument.

And I am saying that you are misinterpreting "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".
The founders of this country interpreted them in the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence is not the basis for any of our laws.

No, they are the foundation for its existence. Don't recall any laws about the Internet or AR15s either. One day, whether by SCOTUS decision, revolution, or legislation; healthcare, which is part of our inalienable rights, will be a Law you are so fond of.

Healthcare is a right, whether you've been brainwashed by the nonsense coming from Washington DC or not.

Where in the Constitution does it say that?

Healthcare is a right, whether you've been brainwashed by the nonsense coming from Washington DC or not.

Where in the Constitution does it say that?

I would argue in the preamble. Promoting the general welfare. Again the constitution treated blacks as property and women as child bearers. I'm tired of the constitution argument and the holding the founding fathers on a pedestal. They, for the most part, were sexist bigots.

My general welfare would be improved if people would stop making really, really ill informed comments

Or the government could just hand me a check for $10 million

Healthcare is a right, whether you've been brainwashed by the nonsense coming from Washington DC or not.

Where in the Constitution does it say that?

I would argue in the preamble. Promoting the general welfare. Again the constitution treated blacks as property and women as child bearers. I'm tired of the constitution argument and the holding the founding fathers on a pedestal. They, for the most part, were sexist bigots.

We have the Bill of Rights to fix those issues. And the right to health care isn't there either.

The general welfare clause has been pretty well interpreted on a Hamiltonian level for quite some time.

They are bestowed on us by our Creator and the very being of our country was to protect those rights.

The sky wizard?

so, i hope whoever steps in next will have the same puerto rico deal-but most likely not. love going to puerto rico for medical issues.

and at least we get to keep the insurance for the whole of this insurance term

They are bestowed on us by our Creator and the very being of our country was to protect those rights.

The sky wizard?

Like I said, it may not be your Creator or mine, but that is how it was written as the basis and the reason for the existence of America.

The general welfare clause has been pretty well interpreted on a Hamiltonian level for quite some time.

Just like internet access. Can't live without it.

The general welfare clause has been pretty well interpreted on a Hamiltonian level for quite some time.

Just like internet access. Can't live without it.

I could live just fine without it, but I wouldn't be able to comment here and that would make you all sad.

The general welfare clause has been pretty well interpreted on a Hamiltonian level for quite some time.

Just like internet access. Can't live without it.

I could live just fine without it, but I wouldn't be able to comment here and that would make you all sad.

I can't. My livelihood and my health depend on it.

If you want to rely on a document written 230 years ago by racist, sexist men with a quill pen and no idea of the future go for it. If you want to get your rights from antiquated documents you can go back a decade or so before and read the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness from Declaration of Independence. Because someone isn't Fortunate enough to be a pawn in the for profit insurance scam should not preclude them from living.

So many logical fallacies...

I have to go find a safe space, this college rhetoric (I'm pretty sure that's where they teach this nonsensical thinking) is triggering me.

If you want to rely on a document written 230 years ago by racist, sexist men with a quill pen and no idea of the future go for it. If you want to get your rights from antiquated documents you can go back a decade or so before and read the LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness from Declaration of Independence. Because someone isn't Fortunate enough to be a pawn in the for profit insurance scam should not preclude them from living.

So many logical fallacies...

I have to go find a safe space, this college rhetoric (I'm pretty sure that's where they teach this nonsensical thinking) is triggering me.

Maybe they teach it in college? I was MIA except midterms and finals. 3.66 GPA too. Tells you all about "higher learning". It does not take away from the fact, that based on precedence interpreting the "general welfare" clause, that if the cowardly congress, that is bought by special interests like insurance co., would pass universal healthcare, it would be ruled constitutional.

It does not take away from the fact, that based on precedence interpreting the "general welfare" clause, that if the cowardly congress, that is bought by special interests like insurance co., would pass universal healthcare, it would be ruled constitutional.

yea, but it's really hard to read when you are typing sentences aimed at "stupid americans"

I know it's a super common practice to use logical fallacy to get a point a cross, but it's just an attempt at deception (regardless of your intent) & makes you look like an emotional windbag (racist this & sexist that.. items that have nothing to do with your actual topic).

I don't disagree with the topic, I do disagree with your delivery in that specific post; it reeks of academia gatekeeper manipulation.... I'm sure this terrible method of communication CAN be learned out side of college as well; hell just watch TV... not a bit of logic or critical thinking to be found!